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Contents 1 Ready fo GA nomination? 2 References 3 BRIC 4 "Of the five original great powers recognised at the Congress of Vienna..."

[edit] Ready fo GA nomination?

Anyone else think the article is ready for the GA nomination again, as we dealt with most of the problems identified in the article. Deavenger (talk) 12:08, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the reminder. I'll get right on that :-) Ok. Its now nominated here. -- Phoenix (talk) 04:55, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Let's hope that if it gets nominated, it'll stay a good article so we can work towards A and FA class articles. Deavenger (talk) 19:11, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] References

[edit] BRIC

Several news articles refered to the BRICs (wich includes Brazil and India) to be emerging powers after their first official summit. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] And this article still excluding them... Felipe Menegaz 20:51, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh this article excludes them? Erm, no. Russia and China ARE Great Powers, as stated in this article. India and Brazil may be great powers in the future, but are not yet. We've been through all this before - see the discussion archives. David (talk) 10:23, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Well, the article should display a section or just few sentences about the emerging of Brazil and India. Felipe Menegaz 15:50, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] "Of the five original great powers recognised at the Congress of Vienna..."

Of the five original great powers recognised at the Congress of Vienna, only France and the United Kingdom have maintained that status to the present day, although France was conquered and occupied during World War II.

Should Russia also be included in the list of those that maintained that status to the present day, given that it is still counted as one (according to the list of "Great Powers by Date")? Ok, there were several years when it wasn't one, but presumably France wasn't a great power while it was occupied by Germany, so if it can be listed as "maintained that status to the present day", should not Russia? Wardog (talk) 14:22, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I can see where you're coming from. France was conquered and occupied for four years, though was a great power immediately prior and immediately after that occupation and is described as one of the victors of World War II. During its occupation France was still recognised and had its own Free French government-in-exile and armed forces (thanks to Britain). Other than those four years, its great power status has not been interrupted. Russia on the other hand is a little different. Arguably it lost its fight in World War I and that together with the communist revolution initially reduced it to below that of a great power for at least a decade. It had regained great power status by the beginning of World War II. I would therefore argue that Russia's great power status is not continuous, whilst France's is - despite the four years of occupation during World War II. David (talk) 15:07, 19 June 2009 (UTC)