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We have had an email (via Jimbo) pointing out that two of the images on this page are copies of images from http://www.meinestadt.de/ ([1] and [2]). I've removed them as verified copyright problems. -- sannse (talk) 22:44, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC)

This article uses a mixture of AmE and BrE spellings and terminology. We should settle on just one variant - suggestions? 81.92.18.58 (talk) 21:17, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Reclassified from Start to B. 81.109.217.46 (talk) 18:41, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Suggestions? What about editing the article? ;);) 10027a (talk) 10:51, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] baby thrown out window

what about the fire where the parent threw a baby out a fourth story window to a policeman below? The baby survived...i want details —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.56.154.62 (talk) 03:34, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

they thrown a baby out of the window in the arms of a policeman when a house was on fire. nuff details? 10027a (talk) 15:08, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] picture in the infobox

I think the picture used in the infobox should be a representative one. The former pictures, "playground in Ludwigshafen" or earlier "Bayreuther Straße" aren't such representative ones. So please don't change the "BASF Hochhaus" again, or if, replace it with a picture, wich shows something concisely of Ludwigshafen. BASF is undisputable an important part of Ludwigshafen. --80.140.179.123 (talk) 18:18, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Ludwigshafen is no representative town. It is a ramshackled bunch of houses and filthy facades. Therefore the playground picture just shows the real face of this town and represents it accordingly. 10027a (talk) 09:52, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

That picture smacks of subversive POV. More representative of Ludwigshafen, and just as drab, might be overview pictures taken from the other side of the Rhine, or one of those night pictures of the BASF plant. Kato2k6 (talk) 14:05, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Upon reviewing the article, it stinks of lack of NPOV throughout. Kato2k6 (talk) 14:10, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] POV Check

I've placed a POV Check request template due to the rather obvious, blatant POV used in a number of places throughout the article.

Parts to be especially reviewed for POV:

Infobox image (caption and placement)
History
Postwar rebuilding
Financial Crisis
Districts
Center
North
Gartenstadt
All images in section (captions and composition)
Transport (in particular: last two paragraphs)
Region and Neighbors (very first sentence!)

Kato2k6 (talk) 14:26, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

It`s far more neutral than the propagandistic, enthusiastic pamphlet that was here before. 10027a (talk) 18:28, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Ludwigshafen is a ramshackled town that looks like being closed down soon. The air pollution is strange, the rhine river has been the most polluted river worldwide until the 1990`s. Old architecture has been tored down and replaced by square architecture. The pedestrian zone is a crappy accumulation of bakeries, cell phone shops and junk good stores. The Hochstraßen; highways on pillars; overtop the city and are a public toilet (didnt wanted to write shithouse here). Social establishments are being closed, you can`t differ playing grounds from places where the dogs shit, even the city center is full of dog shit - and noone cares. Then you read the english article of this "town" and what you see is a lobbyistic, enthusiastic, propagandistic pamphlet.

So, as Wikipedia should stand for independent information - that`s what it is.

You don`t see some idiots creeping through this town, making good looking pictures, puttin` some propaganda in Wikipedia? Why not?

Cause you have not been in Ludwigshafen.

10027a (talk) 18:40, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, yeah, i know the old adage: "When it snows in June, BASF is to blame". However, the information is clearly not displayed in an NPOV way. Kato2k6 (talk) 13:00, 18 August 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Sister Towns

The article says Ludwigshafen would be twinned with Tiszaújváros, Hungary. This town isn't mentioned in the German article or on the homepage of both towns (http://www.ludwigshafen.de/rathaus/partnerstaedte/). Does someone have more information about this or is it wrong? Cattleyard (talk) 06:39, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

It's actually Ludwigshafen-Friesenheim that is twinned with Tiszaújváros. One of the clearer sources for this that I could find is an agenda of the Ortsbeirat Friesenheim in October 2002. [3] I found a better one with Google which says it started in 1990 and gives some details, but it's a very strange URL. [4] Fixed it in the article using yet another source. --Hans Adler (talk) 18:18, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
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