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Hello, Cordless Larry, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Where to ask a question, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome! 

Djegan 12:12, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Note: If you post a comment here, I'll post the reply here, unless otherwise specified. Cordless Larry 20:44, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Wikipedia:Northern Irish Wikipedians' notice board

Hi Larry, just to let you know about the notice board in case you haven't seen it yet. I was looking at your photos on Flickr, have you uploaded any to Wikipedia yet? Some of them would be great for articles like The Crown Liquor Saloon, Samson and Goliath (Cranes), Belfast City Hall, Belfast Botanic Gardens and Charles Lanyon. The mural ones too. Stu ’Bout ye! 09:22, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Great, thanks for letting me know. I've uploaded a few photos of Croatia, but I might add some NI ones soon too. Cordless Larry 14:51, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

'Hands Across the Divide' sculpture, Derry, by Maurice Harron
Frederick Douglass mural, Belfast
Gates in a peace line in West Belfast
Ulster loyalists prepare to burn the Irish tricolour on a bonfire on the eve of The Twelfth in Belfast

[edit] Request

Hi! Your photos of Croatia on Flickr are really cool. Would you allow their use on the Croatian Wikipedia? I think we could use almost all of them. --Zmaj 12:39, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Sure, but I have 124 on Flickr at the moment, so if you let me know if there are any in particular you want to use, I could start by uploading them. Cordless Larry 13:16, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

City photos and buildings are the main priority, I'd say. Osijek and Vukovar have no photos at all in the hr wiki - actually, Vukovar has some old postcards :) I'll take those you already uploaded on en wiki, but we can use 5 or 6, or even all of them - those articles will definitely grow. Pula and Dubrovnik could also use some more photos of buildings. It's great that you want to help. And having worked for an NGO is also something to be proud of. Thanks! --Zmaj 14:05, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, just one more thing: can you upload them on the commons category? --Zmaj 07:01, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

OK, I'm a bit busy at the moment, but I'll start to upload some as and when I have the time over the next few days. Cordless Larry 15:36, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

I'll add the photos here as I upload them:

Sign showing Osijek's twin towns
Urania Cinema, Osijek
St. Michael's Church, Osijek's Tvrđa
St. Peter's Cathedral, Đakovo
Restored wooden building, Vukovar
Main street, Vukovar
Vrelo Bosne spring, Sarajevo
File:Jadrolinija ferry, Korčula.jpg
A Jadrolinija ferry approaching Korčula harbour
Rooftops in Dubrovnik's Old City, a UNESCO World Heritage Site
The Arena (colosseum) in Pula, Istria
Gradski vrt stadium, Osijek

How do I add them to the Commons category, Zmaj? Cordless Larry 07:34, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, wrong choice of words. I meant to say you can upload them on the Commons just like you upload them on en wiki (you just need to log in first). If you log in under the same name as here, I'll go check it out and categorize your images for you, i.e. put them in galleries under appropriate towns, so you just have to upload them and that's it. BTW, always specify you made them, they're very fussy about copyright over there. You probably know this, but I'll say it just in case: when you upload an image on the Commons, it becomes available to Wikipedias in all languages as if it had been uploaded on them, so you're doing everybody a favor. --Zmaj 11:02, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Great, thanks for the help. Does this mean that it's easier for me just to upload everything to the Commons rather than to the EN version in future? That would save doing it all twice, and the images would still be accessible on the EN Wiki - correct? Cordless Larry 11:38, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Correct. Most people don't do it because they either don't know about it or don't have the copyright sorted out. --Zmaj 20:41, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Once I've uploaded a file to the Commons, how do I place a thumbnail of it in Wikipedia? Cordless Larry 18:46, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

A thumbnail? I don't understand, but anyway, you can use such files in all the same ways as if you uploaded them in Wikipedia. --Zmaj 20:52, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

I meant a thumbnail as in the small picture above. It's working now - thanks for your help. Cordless Larry 20:54, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Now that I've transferred my current photos to the Commons, Zmaj, do you think you could request any duplicates on the HR Wiki to be deleted? Looks like you uploaded them, so they should be easy to delete. I've spotted these so far:

I've also edited the HR Wiki's Osijek page to use the Commons versions of the files, so these should be OK to delete. Cordless Larry 23:55, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

I'll delete them, no problem, I'm an admin on hr wiki :) --Zmaj 11:46, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Zmaj. Cordless Larry 13:37, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deleting your own work

I notice that you nominated Image:Restored wooden building Vukovar.JPG for deletion on WP:IFD. Did you know that if you are the only person who contributed to a page, you can add the {{db-author}} tag to it to have it deleted? It's faster than the regular deletion process and saves you typing a load of reasons. Stifle (talk) 21:15, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Great, thanks for letting me know. Cordless Larry 21:29, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bergen

Can someone tell me why the redirect at the Bergen page isn't working? Cordless Larry 15:18, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

The redirect is working fine. What's happening to make it not work? J Ditalk 15:19, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

OK, it's working fine for me now too. It just didn't for about 20 minutes, so I was getting worried. Thanks anyway. Cordless Larry 15:20, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

No worries. J Ditalk 15:22, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FBiH

Hey, I respect what you are doing. Bosnia and Croatia have pretty much the same atmospheres. (Not as much comparing the coastlines), but in general central and eastern Croatia. Beautiful places in both countries, still rebuilding after the war. I like both countries.

About your question, I will try to find out some info through research and a user from both the bs. and hr. wiki's who has been adding correct info (as my research proves).

So, how do you like the areas of the former Yu.

Thanks and greetins from Chicago, Kseferovic 18:42, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

I like them both, and I've been to Serbia too. Thanks for your offer of help. Cordless Larry 18:45, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article deletion

Why is the article I wrote up for possible deletion? I was just stating facts.

If you don't sign your comment (using ~~~~), I don't know who you are, so I can't tell you why I nominated it for deletion. Cordless Larry 21:40, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ethnicity and Provincialism in Pakistan

Hi, I noticed that you nominated Ethnicity and Provincialism in Pakistan for speedy deletion; thanks for your contribution. The rationale you used "reads like an opinion piece" is not a valid criterion for CSD. If the article is POV and can be fixed, the remedy is editing. If you think the article is hopelessly POV, then please consider nominating it for AfD. --- Deville (Talk) 19:46, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip. I'll list it as AfD. Cordless Larry 19:47, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Sounds great! thanks--Deville (Talk) 14:59, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Daniel Meade

Was there something wrong with the article? I am aware that Ugly Betty haven't debuted yet but I expcect the article to be modified anyway. Robert Moore 00:49 18 September 2006 (UTC)

See my comment at the article's talk page. Cordless Larry 10:07, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
I just read your comments. I'll just go and eliminate that part of the statement. Robert Moore 18:33 18 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] London edit

I was just about to edit that one! Seems the same person has just edited Bluewater as a 'Super' Regional Shopping Centre and that Dartford is a london Borough! Cheers anyway--Screen42 19:35, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Hi, you wrote me about my article "Žurnalistická etika" from today morning. It was completely my mistake. I was translating "Journalistic ethics" for Czech Wikipedia and I saved it into my favourite English Wikipedia by mistake. I didn't know how to delete an article, but as I see, the problem was solved immediately.

I see you've been to Czech republic, hope you liked it! Paxik 19:37, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

No problem. Now that you mention the English translation of the title, it makes sense. If you create an article by mistake, and you're the only author to have edited it, you can have it speedy deleted by tagging it with {{db-author}}. I liked the Czech Republic, and I'll get back one day because since I went a couple of years ago, I've met friends who live in Prague. Cordless Larry 19:42, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Suchita Chaudhry

Hi Larry, I am not Dr. Suchita Chaudhry. I have created this page as I thought this info will be useful for people doing Dengue virus research. I am not sure what makes you think that Moinjnu is Suchita Chaudhry. Anyhow, I don't know much about wiki policies, can you please explain why this article should be deleted, probably then I can give my explanation. Thanks, Moinjnu —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moinjnu (talk • contribs) 12:39, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi. Sorry for mistaking you for Suchita chaudhry. I presumed that because you created the article, you were her. Apologies for that. The reason I'm supporting the deletion of the article is that I don't think the subject is notable (see WP:BIO), and the article violates WP:NPOV (e.g. "Dr. Suchita Chaudhry is a good scientist"). If you feel that the article should stay, you should edit it to state why she is notable, and to make it more neutral. You then might want to leave a comment here saying that you have done so.
PS: When leaving comments on talk pages, please sign them by placing four tildes ~~~~ after you comment. Cordless Larry 11:48, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] UK literature list

Hi Larry. On balance, I still see the OK literature list as untidy and subjective, although the version as last edited by you was better than the one I first opposed. I have deleted it again mainly because I object to Mark Thomas imposing his minority view. Unfortunately that user has a recent history of multiple disrespect for WP:BLP, WP:NPA, WP:3RR and WP:NPOV and I have to admit to developing a bias against him. If you think your last version should be restored, perhaps you could put these thoughts on the talk page. Viewfinder 15:07, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

That's fine. I was just trying to make the list a bit more readable, but you're right - it can stay out until we develop something better. Cordless Larry 15:38, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
Unfortunately the list is back, put back by a likely puppet of Mark Thomas, in the metaphorical sense or possibly even in the literal sense. If other editors think this is an appropriate situation for Whac-A-Mole then I will support them but otherwise I suppose it can stay. Perhaps it can be reduced to more encyclopedic proportions (no more than six in each category, say) but I am not the right person to judge whom to keep and whom to delete. Viewfinder 18:21, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
I have my suspicions about Sarah Williams and MarkThomas. I'd support some kind of investigation. Then again, they could easily just be users who happen to have similar viewpoints - hard to judge. Cordless Larry 18:31, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Prospect article link

Great link! I didn't even know Stephen Oppenheimer had a new book out. His thesis regarding a single migration out of East Africa has garnered many adherents over the last four years. -- Gerkinstock 22:22, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

No probs. I got an e-mail about the contents of this month's Prospect and spotted the article. I thought it might be useful for the background to the Immigration to the United Kingdom article, and then I saw that there's an Oppenheimer article too. Cordless Larry 09:43, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Warren, Pennsylvania

Thanks for removing link spam from Warren, Pennsylvania, however you might want to be careful as you also removed the navigation box for Warren County {{Warren County, Pennsylvania}} (see Template:Warren County, Pennsylvania). I put the navbox back in and found the city's official website and added that as well. You have very nice pictures by the way - thanks for sharing them on WP and Commons! Take care, Ruhrfisch 21:02, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Oops, sorry about that. I was obviously being over-eager to get rid of that spam. Cordless Larry 21:10, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
  • No problem, thanks again for weeding out the link spam. Ruhrfisch 01:04, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Slbass37

i think that dirty stinkin apes was a very informational piece —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Slbass37 (talk • contribs) .

Right. Seems other people agreed with me since it's been deleted. Please don't create new articles unless you have something constructive to say. Cordless Larry 22:47, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Brookfield Community School

Hi Larry. I have just removed the speedy deletion tag on this article, as non-notability is not a valid criteria for speedy deleting an article on a school. If you still wish to have the article deleted, I suggest you nominate it at WP:AfD, however, notability of schools is fairly controversial, and it probably will be kept. JPD (talk) 11:01, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

OK, fair enough. I'll leave it as there seem to be many of these articles and I don't want to pick on one in particular. Cordless Larry 11:05, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] thanks

hi thanks for the welcome message :) there is something you could help me with, I couldn't help but admire your user page, just wondering how to get all those graphics on mine. thanks The big moose 11:50, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Feel free to copy and paste the content from my user page by visiting it and hitting edit. You'll obviously need to modify it to reflect what you want on your own page, but perhaps the best way is just to experiment with it. It's your user page after all, so it doesn't matter if it takes some time to get it right - no one's going to come along and delete it. If you make a start and get stuck, let me know and I'll see if I can edit it a bit myself. Cordless Larry 11:55, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
ok thanks for your help The big moose 12:04, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 3 changes

thanks for letting me know about the three changes rule, is there a page with a list of rules I can look at for future reference? --The big moose 14:07, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

There's not really a single page, but I think the three places to refer to are Help:Contents/Policies and guidelines, Wikipedia:Simplified Ruleset and Wikipedia:List of policies. The list of policies is probably the best place for a general overview of the rules. Cordless Larry 14:22, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tag-springing copyrighting violation

Hi there Larry, I've taken the rules listed in the tag-springing article from a guideline website, however I'm in contact with the person who originally wrote it (hence wanting to help supplement it with the Wikipedia article - should I have wrote it in the references as oppose to linking to it as I did? - and is it practical to write an interpretation of an (I presume) approved set of rules? - if you could give me some advice I'd really appreciate it, as I'd be disappointed if I lose all of my work because of an error.. - Thanks, and you were quite right about the capitalisation. 86.144.22.96 19:35, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

OK. Firstly, there's no need to be worried about losing your work. I've blanked the article for now, but all of your work remains in the article history. As for what to do next, if you want the text to remain as it is, take a look at points 1 to 5 on the notice at Tag-Springing. I think it could do with re-drafting rather than asserting permission to copy it wholesale. That way, it will read more like an encyclopedia article. If you need any help doing so, I'll be happy to assist.
By the way, are you Benjamesthompson? If so, you should probably sign in so that your edits don't appear to be by an anonymous IP address as they are at the moment. Cordless Larry 19:39, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A vandal

I have caught a vandal repeatedly vandalising McDonalds ( 66.244.236.129 ) that is his IP address, I have seen him several times on the recent changes list, is there anything I can do to get him stopped? --The big moose 20:27, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

The vandalism policy is set out at Wikipedia:Vandalism. The problem with IP addresses is that it's hard to tell if the same person is committing the vandalism each time. This IP seems to have a history of vandalism, so I've placed a final warning on its talk page. Cordless Larry 20:30, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
yes I did that myself, the warnings say that "you will be blocked" if you re-offend etc.. but im unsure how to actually block them or get them blocked The big moose 20:32, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
If they continue to vandalise after being given a final warning, you can list them at Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. Note the policy regarding listing of IPs though. Cordless Larry 20:35, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
I've listed that IP address myself since it seems blatant and persistent vandalism. Cordless Larry 20:38, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I agree

I agree with your comment at User talk:80.6.32.80. A "blatant vandal" template warning for a new editor making what they no doubt thought were good faith spelling corrections is excessive biting. I changed the tag to a more suitable one. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 21:36, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. Even if they turn out to be a vandal, I think people deserve a chance when the changes they make aren't obviously malicious vandalism. The only other edit they've made is to add a {{fact}} tag to Universal Media Disc, which is clearly not vandalism. Cordless Larry 21:38, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] James Patrick Dunne

I accidentally removed your {{autobiography}} and {{wikify}} tags from this article, but only because I thought I had added them myself. The confusion arose because there exist two identical versions of this "article," one called James Patrick Dunne and one called James Dunne, and I had added those same tags to the duplicate article -- but thought about it again and replaced those tags with a {{likeresume}}. Feel free to restore your original tags if you wish, or leave the {{likeresume}}. Your call --Rrburke 03:38, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

No problem. Looks like they've both been deleted now anyway. Cordless Larry 08:45, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Oklahoma State Reformatory

Hello Cordless Larry,

I am a student at DePauw University. Yesterday I was in the middle of posting an article pertaining to the Oklahoma State Reformatory when the site was suddenly blocked. My introduction that I posted was not complete, nor is the rest of my article. I was wondering if you could unblock the site so that I may complete my article and show you that I have sufficient resources for my information. Once completed, I am sure that you will find my article worthy of being posted on Wikipedia.

Thank you!

Alex Gribbin —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 163.120.73.102 (talk) .

Hi. There's no reason why you shouldn't be able to edit the article. It's not locked (I'm not an administrator, so I couldn't do that even if I wanted to), and your IP address isn't blocked either (by the way, please sign your comments on talk pages such as this by typing ~~~~ after you comment, which saves people having to work out who you are). You should be able to go ahead and edit the article. You should also sign in, if you're the same Alexandragribbin 2010 who was editing the article yesterday. Cordless Larry 15:16, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bosnian War article

Where were you to put the neutrality template when the article said that Bosniaks are serbs and croats? You should become more neutral. Bosoni

Hi. I left a comment on your talk page explaining why I tagged the article for weasel words. I think we both posted comments on each other's page at the same time. If I'd have spotted the claim that Bosniaks are Serbs and Croats, I would have flagged that as POV, don't worry. Unfortunately I didn't see it. I'm certainly not anti-Bosniak, I'm just trying to tread the thin line between competing POVs. Sorry for any misunderstanding. Cordless Larry 13:52, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
I will fix the language to be more suitable, I'll work on it now. Thanks for your help. Yes I know that serb editors will revert, it was they who wrote Bosniaks were croats and serbs in the first place. I will ask for protection. Bosoni

[edit] My userpage

hi could you take a look at my userpage and tell me what you think of my progress? cheers --The big moose 15:53, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Looks like you're getting the hang of it. The layout looks a bit random though. Cordless Larry 16:02, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
true, I'll sort out the formatting once I've got all the content hehe --The big moose 16:03, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiproject BiH

I think that there already exists a wiki project called Bosnia and Herzegovina. I am wondering are you explicitly asking it to be solely on Bosnia or are you using Bosnia as a synonymous word for Bosnia and Herzegovina. As far as I know Wiki project Bosnia already exists. I do believe that it needs a lot of work and improvements, which would require a lot of daily participation. Pozdrav (greetings) Kseferovic 20:03, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi. I was using Bosnia as shorthand for Bosnia and Herzegovina. I don't think there is a WikiProject already (Wikipedia:WikiProject Bosnia and Herzegovina is a red link). Cordless Larry 20:21, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
Sorry dude I thought you were talking about a portal. Yes, I'd be glad to help out with a Wikiproect BiH. Count me in, pozdrav Kseferovic 05:35, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 'Vandalism'

Oh get a sense of humour.

... only kidding, point taken. Just couldn't resist, mate. ;) FruitcakeOfDoom 17:09, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, but you've no idea how many people have made that joke on the UK article and it gets a bit tiring after a while. Cordless Larry 18:55, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Notability tag

Hey Cordless Larry,

I was just wondering what you would like to see me do so that the notability tag may be removed from my article's page.

Thanks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Alexandragribbin 2010 (talk • contribs) .

Hi. I'm presuming you're talking about Oklahoma State Reformatory (you need to state what article you're talking about and sign your comment by typing ~~~~ after it so that I know who you are without having to work it out). To answer your question, you should take a look at Wikipedia:Notability for the guidelines on notability. You also need to format the article in the correct style, as per Wikipedia:Manual of Style. Cordless Larry 16:24, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] new user error

Hi. Thank you for your welcome message. I got one from Nawlins about spamming because I added some links to pages to which I had added information. I am a newbie and just learning the ins and outs of using Wikipedia, so I apologize for the infraction. Perhaps I was misinformed, so I am writing to ask you for clarification. (I tried writing to Nawlins, but your page is more newbie friendly for communicating with you, hence my contacting you . . . and I'm not sure I'm even doing this correctly.)

I do a lot of researching -- and a whole lot on the Internet. I knew of Wikipedia, but had never delved into it and had never considered writing on it. A friend told me I should put some of my gained knowledge to work by adding information to Wikipedia pages. So I did. In speaking with another person, they told me I should add links to the places from where I get information. So I went back in and added the links -- and those links were to commercial sites because those sites were the starting places of the research I did on the information I added to the Wikipedia pages. Are links to commercial sites forbidden even if they are the source of the information added to the topic OR was the problem created because I had added a slew of links to commercial links all at one time OR was the problem created because I didn't put the links to the exact area on the commercial site from where I got some of the information? Alwolff55 16:37, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

It's hard to say without knowing which article you added the links to. Commercial sites are fine as long as the links are there to provide references for statements in the article, but there's a fine line between referencing and giving the impression that you're trying to advertise. If you let me know the article title, I'll take a look for you. Cordless Larry 18:39, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] On holiday

Hi. I'm on holiday until mid-November, so I won't be making many edits for a while. If you leave a comment, you might have to wait a while for my reply. Cordless Larry 17:08, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm back. Cordless Larry 23:08, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please, com and join...

...Wikipedia:WikiProject Montenegro if you're interested in the Balkans. --PaxEquilibrium 20:21, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] UK work permit

Larry

It looks like this page has been removed. Do you have any useful compilation of info on this? many thanks

"I have added the UK work permit page, generally as I have one and found it tough to find information on the governments site that made sense and clearly outlined what was required. Actually I had trouble getting info from immgration service companies, they wanted money first than I would get answers."

Vitaly Ushakov

vitaly@clara.co.uk —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.203.97.41 (talk • contribs) 13:40, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

The article was removed because it was a copyright violation. I don't really know what you're asking me for - perhaps you could explain again? Cordless Larry 19:51, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Survey

Sorry. I reinserted your edits.   /FunkyFly.talk_  23:46, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Other photo sharing sites

Thanks for your comment. I found that the most popular ones, like Flickr were attracting links to all the other services. I went through the categories Category:Image hosting and Category:Photo sharing to remove similar links from the articles there. Are there other related categories that need checking? ChemGardener 15:17, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] HSMP

I commented on the talk page. In a nutshell, its a scandal for anyone to use our webservers to drum up business for their company. --Spartaz Humbug! 17:13, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Glad you agree. Cordless Larry 17:14, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] HSMP Page

Section added for 'Legal' - you are probably better placed than me to make the required changes, but there is already a page for the OISC at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_the_Immigration_Services_Commissioner, therefore an edit and link are probably required. Spooky69 16:13, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Images on Old Joe

Just to tell you, when you give a defined size for an image on Wikipedia - like 275px - it means the image may appear differently depending on what resolution screen you have. For example, if you have a very high res screen, the image will appear tiny and totally unrecognisable. If you want to know more, see this discussion about a user who did something similar. Thanks and happy editing! - Erebus555 19:21, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

OK, thanks. I didn't realise that. I'll change it back. Cordless Larry 19:23, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Old Joe Bell Weight

  • Will try and find the original source! Cls14 21:40, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
  • All I seem to be getting now is pages that get their info from Wikipedia! Sorry! Cls14 21:54, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
  • I got all my stats about Big Joe from the net. Can't even find that darn page now. Cls14 22:05, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Good find with that page that lists all the weights of bells in order. I did just find the Med School guide page but it wasn't the one I found the info on, lol. I think that is lost forever. I'd go with the 6,100 odd kg's. Seems reliable. I presume it was you who has made the page a lot longer, having read books about the tower. Good work! Cls14 22:14, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Religion in France

Sorry, for the edit i made. I have resolved the issue now, i have deleted it as it had no citation. Until, this is made known it will stay deleted.(217.42.46.119 22:18, 6 June 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Larry...

You could have said so if Im horrible at writng.Ill leave this awful place then.I hated it anyways.I mean who likes wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Leidi (talk • contribs) 00:17, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

It's not your writing, it's that you're vandalising pages. Please feel free to leave if all you care to contribute is vandalism. Cordless Larry 23:50, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sorry

I should have realized you didn't know category moving is a manual process. The category has to be changed in every template and on every page it appears on, and there's a backlog of doing so, which means they will get to yours in a few days. If you know how to do it, you can do the process yourself. -N 19:56, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

No worries - now I know. Thanks for your help. Cordless Larry 19:59, 11 June 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Mind body spirit

Yeah, it's meant tu be a redirect page, and I made a hash of it. Then I consulted Help, and found nothing on redirect. And I got quotation marks in the title! Eek. Froggo Zijgeb 14:18, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

That's OK - I'll fix it now. Cordless Larry 14:21, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I didn't directly copy text at Uttara University page

If you have a look at the whole article then you can see that I am writing this article. I took help from the website to organize the history part. But, rest of the part is written by myself and it's really irritating while writing something with lot of concentration and some one is disturbing again and again. By the way, I am a Lecturer of this university and I know better than you what to write about the university. If you are an admin then I hope you will show your patience and see what I am actually doing. Thanks - (Niaz bd 16:46, 17 June 2007 (UTC))

OK, but I think you need to edit the text more because whole sentences are exactly the same as those on the website. Cordless Larry 16:48, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
Actually you visited Uttara University article when I just started it. At that time I was trying to give it a structure and then I modified it properly. Sorry for being impolite. Regards, Niaz bd 15:14, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
No worries. Good luck with the article. Cordless Larry 15:23, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your recent edit

Hi Cordless Larry, I've just gone through Uttara University.It seems to me there's no copyright violation there.The article has just started with infobox and a little statement. Those infos don't fall under copyright violation.And they will remain same in everywhere.Please check properly before you tag any article.Best regards.--NAHID 16:49, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

The copyright violation was in the history section. Cordless Larry 16:51, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
For example: UU "was founded as a Private University by Dr. M. Azizur Rahman, an economist of international repute, with an idea of setting up an affordable institution of quality". That's taken from http://www.uttarauniversity.com/about.htm. Cordless Larry 16:54, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] zemun

The city conference website states

  1. Strani grad: Osijek, Hrvatska

Tip saradnje: Saradnja - Povelja

Avala 19:44, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

It just mentions a signed charter and I have noticed in other articles that these are taken as twinning on Wikipedia. Avala 21:46, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unusual Adoption Request

Hi! Im an English teacher in Toluca Mexico (west of Mexico City). My Advanced B classes will be contributing to Wikipedia as the focus of their English course for Fall 2007. I am looking for people who would like to mentor my students (who will be working in groups) as they do the following assignments: Edit and article (adding a citation), writing a stub with a citation, translating an English language article for Spanish Wikipedia and for the final project, writing a full article for English Wiki (they can expand on the stub mentioned previously). What I would like to do is put a list of "mentors/adopters" on my talk page as a kind of short cut for my students, who have limited time to get things done. The semester begings Aug 6, but the real Wikipedia work wont begin until the beginning of Sept. If you would like to add your name to my list, please go to my talk page and add it there, perhaps with a short introduction, if you like.

Thank you!

Thelmadatter 19:56, 26 July 2007 (UTC)Thelmadatter

[edit] Debate on the correct adjective for Kosovo

Hi! Based on your interest in the Balkans, you may be interested in the currently ongoing debate on whether we should be using Kosovo or Kosovar/Kosovan as the adjective for Kosovo. —Nightstallion 15:24, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Leeds Met UCU report edit

hi larry,

you seem to have a fair amount of wikipedia editing experience, would you mind considering the edit on the Leeds Met page discussed here:

Talk:Leeds_Metropolitan_University

thanks, ben, Noii 20:44, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Done. Cordless Larry 23:57, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] fantasyland liver

you pull my edits,...........because,..............you cant deal with the truth? sorry for ya guy,.........fact is fact and thats what I put in,.............you can,t deal with fact , so like a good little liberal, socialist,....you edit it away. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnhenry22 (talk • contribs) 17:40, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

So it's a fact that progressive politics is "a code phrase for extreme left wing liberalism" (your words), is it? Can we see a source for that? Cordless Larry 18:15, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] are you an authority?

you keep tossing what is FACT regarding Springsteen,......................why? because you went to a bunch of Seeger Session concerts in Ireland? Or is it that you just know so much about him . We know more in the USA, and specifically in New Jersey. Or,......are your problems deeper?,...........do you have a need for your idol ( he must be , the way you guard input) to be above reproach even when he HAS done the things that were put into his bio. His fans might not like it,......but its all true. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnhenry22 (talk • contribs) 17:58, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

Really intelligent comments, thanks. I've never been to a Bruce Springsteen‎ concert. All I did was remove your POV, unsourced comments. Please add them again if you can find reliable sources for them. Cordless Larry 18:12, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] hi

hi mr.larry. i am interested in politics an would like u to adopt me. thanks, Christine118500 14:43, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re. Adoption

I accept this, it's fine. But surely if you are TOO BUSY to adopt me, you shouldn't be flashing your name in the adoptees list. Just a question, no Wiki Hate...Christine118500 13:34, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] BA038

What is total nonsense, been reported several times on News 24 that there are 2 investigations to be held, DoT & AAIB! Mjroots (talk) 19:11, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

I think you've mistaken me for someone else. I didn't call anything nonsense, I just put a magazine title into italics on the page. Cordless Larry (talk) 19:17, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Apologies, it was an anon IP user, sorry! Mjroots (talk) 19:19, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
No worries. Cordless Larry (talk) 19:20, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

I appreciate your help with the biography Cameron McCasland I updated the page with several links, to help the notability claim. I would appreciate any further advice in making the article better. Joe Wallace (talk) 02:22, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your work improving the article. I still think it sounds a bit like self-promotion by the subject, but the main problem remains notability. I'm not sure there's much you can do about that unless you have a citation that establishes notability as per WP:BIO. Cordless Larry (talk) 08:47, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] University of Birmingham

Hi Cordless Larry,

Could you please refrain from replacing the lower quality image of the University crest on the wikipedia entry.

The image of the crest is in fact copyrighted and permission has not been granted for it to be used in this way. I have replaced the image with one of lower quality for the good reason of the university not wishing for people being able to forge documents with a high definition image of the crest. We do however obviously wish for people to view and enjoy the crest (hence the low definition image).

Also the University of Birmingham is one of five other HEIs in Birmingham (University College Birmingham and Newman were recently granted degree awarding status).

I hope that you appreciate why the university is keen for the high definition image of the crest to be removed.

Kind regards, Infinity18ad —Preceding unsigned comment added by Infinity18ad (talk • contribs) 12:13, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

OK, well the university may be one of five HEIs in the city, but the way you've worded it is that it's one of five universities, which is not the same thing. University College Birmingham and Newman are not universities in their own right. On the crest, I apologise for the confusion - I'm sure the full-sized crest wasn't tagged as copyright when I last checked. That said, your low-resolution version seems to have been deleted. Cordless Larry (talk) 12:31, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Looking at Image:Bham crest new.png again, it would already appear to be considered a low-res version of the crest. Cordless Larry (talk) 12:51, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi, Fair enough about the Uni College....seems a bit of technicality but never mind...in the sector we do however refer to the 5 HEIs of Birmingham. Seems the crest has disappeared....can't seem to fix the problem. Please feel free to use another image of the campus if you want to replace it. The crest has always been a copyright protected image belonging to the university. Thanks for co-operation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Infinity18ad (talk • contribs) 14:50, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

It may be a technicality but this is an encylopedia so technicalities are important. Actually, I think it's more than a technicality given that the University College Birmingham degrees are awarded by the University of Birmingham and Newman University College's by the University of Leicester so to describe them is universities is misleading. As for the crest, I will leave it to other editors to decide what to do since I'm not an expert on image copyright. Cordless Larry (talk) 19:08, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Sorry to pick you up on this again (enjoying the debate!). It is a mere technicality as in fact University College Birmingham and Newman now award their own degrees - hence their name changes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Infinity18ad (talk • contribs) 09:20, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Are you sure? University College Birmingham states that "degrees are awarded by the University of Birmingham". Maybe the article just needs updating. Anyway, even if they do award their own degrees now, they're still not universities. Cordless Larry (talk) 14:37, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
Some investigation on the UCB website suggests that they do not award their own degrees: "Our undergraduate courses are all accredited by the University of Birmingham and result in the award of degrees and diplomas of the University" (from here). Cordless Larry (talk) 14:41, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kenneth Fowler

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Kenneth Fowler, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. If you agree with the deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please add {{db-author}} to the top of Kenneth Fowler.

The main concern is that the only possible source for this article is disappearing along with the publisher. The name is quite common amongst authors, there is even a contemporary historian of the same name with 5+ published books. I worry that there may be confusion with the name, and the confusion cannot be resolved since no sources exist to confirm the claims in the article. JackSchmidt (talk) 16:52, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

I have no problem with this article being deleted. I didn't create it, I simply tried to tidy it up recently. Cordless Larry (talk) 16:54, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] re:Willhire 24 Hour

Thanks for taking up this request, I will have a go at expanding soon, if not, hopefully in the summer. Willirennen (talk) 00:21, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Altough I have expanded as much as I can so far, also I have also nominated it for Wikipedia:Did you know, although my worries is that it might be too short, I'll see how it goes, feel free to expand it if possible. Willirennen (talk) 01:25, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
As with National Saloon Car Cup, what I know was that Tamiya and Hasegawa released a Castrol sponsored Honda Civic RC car and model ([1]) the latter was James Thompson's car, which he won the title in that car before he came into BTCC. Something I didn't think a notable non-European company would ever think of creating as the series wasn't much heard of outside the UK. Also BTCC drivers Kieth O'dor and Andy Middlehurst used to race in the series.
The only trouble is that it is now trickier to get information about the history of the series but what I got is a book called Showroom Stock Race Car Preparation (a 1992 book), there is one section that lists the Willhire 24 I would assume is the BDRC/BRSCC Saloon Car Championship which might be the previous name of the NSCC, I got a bit on an brief explanation on that book on how the race and class structure of the series, also the eligible cars, which might be useful to you. Willirennen (talk) 21:48, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Osijek

Actually, you may be probably right about that. That was probably an error by me. Sorry. :( Captain panda 23:26, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

No worries! Cordless Larry (talk) 23:27, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

Updated DYK query On 8 March 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Willhire 24 Hour, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Great job getting a motorsport article on DYK! --Royalbroil 04:44, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Cheers. Credit to User:Willirennen for nominating it. Cordless Larry (talk) 10:11, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
and credit to User:Cordless Larry for taking up the request. Willirennen (talk) 11:11, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Peer review feedback

Hi, I noticed you have a request in at peer review which has not yet received any response besides the semi-automated script. Have you tried requesting a peer review from the volunteers list? Another idea you might want to try is to review someone else's request (particularly one from the list of requests without responses), then ask that they look at your request. Hope these are helpful suggestions and help to get some feedback for your request soon, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 21:46, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Brass bed AFD

I merged the pages into Bed frame. If you can go to the afd and withdraw your nomination I will redirect the pages. Cheers GtstrickyTalk or C 13:12, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

I withdrew the AfD for you. Please (merge and) redirect the article as you see fit. – sgeureka t•c 13:40, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Done. :) GtstrickyTalk or C 14:41, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Roma vote

I understand your intentions. The point of NOTVOTE is that policy always outranks majorities, and policy clearly favors the title Romani People over Gypsies. A lack of consensus to keep Roma doesn't equal consensus to change the title. I don't actively edit this article, but I do keep an eye on it; user:Rezistenta (under a different username) and I had a spat over Christmas. If they try to force the move, we can take it to WP:RM and to mediation if it keeps up. Let me know if there's anything else I can help with. // Chris (complaints)•(contribs) 20:22, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Roma people dispute

Please note that the editor who started the following two sections was subsequently blocked from Wikipedia for seven days for harassment and personal attacks. He has now been permanently blocked as a sock puppet. Cordless Larry (talk) 13:42, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Test

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Don't make confusion between vandalism and the right to have opinions.Marc KJH (talk) 13:03, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Can you provide a link to show how I committed vandalism? Cordless Larry (talk) 13:05, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
It seems that you're the one committing vandalism. Cordless Larry (talk) 13:06, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
Probably just another attempt at disruption by User:Marc KJH. Hang in there. Andrewa (talk) 13:34, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. He's going to get banned sooner or later anyway if he carries on. Cordless Larry (talk) 13:35, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
Yes. There's been speculation on the user talk page that this has already happened... ie that this is a sock of a banned user. But no particular user has been suggested. Some edits have been useful. Jimbo set an example of being as tolerant as possible, it's part of the culture here. It works most of the time. Andrewa (talk) 14:00, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
Marc KJH, you have been the vandal here. AKoan (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 14:26, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Yes, Marc KJH is also trying to make me look like the vandal. TheProf | Talk 18:37, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
If you act like one I don't care about you. Marc KJH (talk) 18:38, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP:DISPUTE

If you have some problems start a dispute. At least 8 persons will support me. We can solve all the problems if you want. Including the Gypsy problem. But one good point to start: 1. DON'T WIKI-STALKING ME. 2. DON'T HARASS ME. Now, let us see you're a good boy and start behaving after rules. Marc KJH (talk) 18:40, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Marc KJH, YOU are the stalker, YOU are harassing people. You need to take a good long look at what you have done today. TheProf | Talk 18:46, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
NO. Should I point out that Larry never edited before Mitteleuropa and then suddently today he harassed me? Marc KJH (talk) 18:48, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
I haven't ever edited Mitteleuropa as far as I'm aware, not even today. Cordless Larry (talk) 18:52, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
I meant Template:Romanian diaspora and you did follow me and harass. You should be sorrow. Marc KJH (talk) 18:54, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
I reverted your change to Template:Romanian diaspora because I felt you were pushing a nationalist POV. I have no interest in stalking you. Cordless Larry (talk) 09:35, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Updated Osijek

Concerning: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osijek

Acccording to Alexa, and some other sitemetrics, Osijek031.com is by far the most popular and informative Osijek's portal, so I've returned it to the list.

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/osijek031.com?site0=osijek031.com&site1=osijek-online.com&y=r&z=3&h=300&w=610&u%5B%5D=osijek031.com&u%5B%5D=osijek-online.com&x=2008-03-27T09%3A35%3A14.000Z&check=www.alexa.com&signature=6uUVjS4mzjIcdVPIwqRpZ8HXpRI%3D&range=6m&size=Medium —Preceding unsigned comment added by MungoslavTapir (talk • contribs) 09:33, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Puppet

And I have done that :))--Rjecina (talk) 13:45, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Oops, we both did it. Cordless Larry (talk) 13:46, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
Ah, OK, you requested a checkuser whereas I started Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/TylerDurden1963‎. Cordless Larry (talk) 13:49, 15 April 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Baronetcy of Srebrenica debate

Please note that DrHollisCollier was found to be a sockpuppet after making the comment below. Cordless Larry (talk) 11:10, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Puppet

Do not delete what I write please. I do not want this to become an argument, I hope that in the coming days the Baronetcy will be accepted by my associates as correct. Your persecution of this matter confuses me DrHollisCollier (talk) 15:03, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

What have I deleted that you've written? Please provide some evidence for your accusation. Cordless Larry (talk) 15:05, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Stari most

Yes I agree. Remember initially it wasn't moved to Triple Bridge so a dab was needed. As long as it is linked at the top like you have done then move it back. Regards (oh and plug yourself in buddy lol!!! ) ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 10:21, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RE:The Political Quarterly

I went back and reread the article and I realized I read it wrong, for some reason I thought it was about the man who created it. I went and restored the article as you are correct it doesn't meet A7, so of course feel free to go and improve. Sorry for the mix-up, Im an idiot sometimes :-) « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) 19:16, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Latin American communities in the UK

With some of the locations on the map it is completely obvious which ones they are, since there are no other large town/ cities near them, but I agree in London and the SOuth East it is hard to determine which places are which, due to the fact most areas have fairly large Latin American populations compared to national average, maybe this could be stated in the article and template, with several of the other 'northern' towns with large populations being included, due to the fact that I don't have the book. Thank you Stevvvv4444 | Talk 9:49, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

I guess it also depends on what you define as "fairly large Latin American populations". I've looked at the book again and Milton Keynes, which has the smallest South-American population of the places listed, has 210 people born in South America. Bear in mind that these census tracts are designed to represent about 44,500 people each, so that's only 0.47 per cent of the local population. Cordless Larry (talk) 12:27, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] NAFTA's Impact on US Employment

I was wondering if you still thought this should be deleted. If not, would you be willing to withdraw the nomination so the AfD can be closed? Best, --Bfigura (talk) 02:59, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Roma people

I didn't notice the quotations. I will revert the parts of my edits that changed the quotes. --Olahus (talk) 18:28, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Help required with London article

{{helpme}} I could do with some help with London. Troikoalogo has edited the page to say that Boris Johnson is the mayor, when it is still technically Ken Livingstone (the election results are pending). Troikoalogo has accepted my objections here, but I've already reverted the page three times today. Am I OK to revert it again seeing as I have the editor's agreement? Cordless Larry (talk) 22:15, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

It is not okay to revert again unless there is consensus to revert. Please consider discussing the changes on the talk page instead of edit warring Alexfusco5 22:23, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the advice. I assume that becuase the editor had acknowledged their mistake, that that would have counted as consensus? In any case, another user spotted the edit and reverted it. Cordless Larry (talk) 22:31, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RE:London

Hi there!

I've got the article on my watchlist since I've been working on it to get it to FA, thats how I knew!

I'll keep an eye on it :D

The Helpful One (Review) 22:28, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New Project

Myself and several other editors have been compiling a list of very active editors who would likely be available to help new editors in the event they have questions or concerns. As the list grew and the table became more detailed, it was determined that the best way to complete the table was to ask each potential candidate to fill in their own information, if they so desire. This list is sorted geographically in order to provide a better estimate as to whether the listed editor is likely to be active.

If you consider yourself a very active Wikipedian who is willing to help newcomers, please either complete your information in the table or add your entry. If you do not want to be on the list, either remove your name or just disregard this message and your entry will be removed within 48 hours. The table can be found at User:Useight/Highly Active, as it has yet to have been moved into the Wikipedia namespace. Thank you for your help. Useight (talk) 06:09, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] westlake

I have a few questions to do with the deletion of Westlake as I am an author.

group of houses, which westlake is this means that it is at least a hamlet.

I can understand that it probably isn't interesting to people who don't live there but there is at least 400 people who live there. I feel strongly about this issue so please contact me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mspence835 (talk • contribs) 17:45, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

I've left a reply on your talk page, but you're probably best commenting at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Westlake, County Londonderry. Cordless Larry (talk) 17:54, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] mspence835

It's me again i have one, simple, question for you what the heck were you doing on that page anyway?

Anyway, anyway, anyway if you are a postgraduate student then you should know this ALL HOUSING ESTATES ARE HAMLETS.

I am 14 and I know that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mspence835 (talk • contribs) 18:37, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

I came to the page via the photos you added to the Derry page. Also, you're wrong when you say that all housing estates are hamlets. If you look at the definition of hamlet you'll see that it's a small rural community (and that there is no legal meaning of the term in the UK), whereas housing estates can be in urban areas (and indeed part of other settlements such as villages, towns and cities). Cordless Larry (talk) 18:48, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Richmond, The American International University in London

What is unencyclopedic in this article, so it can be changed?!?DavidPickett (talk) 19:30, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I'll post an explanation on the article's talk page. Cordless Larry (talk) 19:42, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Kitchen Bar

An article that you have been involved in editing, Kitchen Bar, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kitchen Bar. Thank you. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? Ecoleetage (talk) 00:45, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Botanic Inn

I added some references to The Botanic Inn. I think that notability is now demonstrated. --Eastmain (talk) 18:14, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Roma

I was about to undo all of that when you signed it -- he's refactored the talk page, which I thought was a 'no-no'? --Doug Weller (talk) 18:21, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't think he's altered anyone else's comments, has he? Also, I've responded to a couple of his points so it might not be a good idea to revert now. I disagree with him profoundly but he should be allowed his say. Cordless Larry (talk) 18:27, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm leaving it. But he has a real problem with WP:CIVIL--Doug Weller (talk) 21:01, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Indeed. He's angry that Roma sounds a bit like Romania (though they seem pretty distinct to me), and thinks that this is the place to correct this "injustice". I wonder if he's also requesting that the Italian Wikipedia stops calling Rome, Roma. Cordless Larry (talk) 21:16, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Duplicate Pictures

Hello the reason i keep uploading the same pictures is becuase i took these pictures myself but Wikipedia says that they will be deleted becuase they dont have a free image licence when i took these pictures myself. Why is this happening? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hurlfordkillie (talk • contribs) 18:58, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the time to reply. Uploading multiple copies of the same image won't get you around that problem - they will simply all be deleted in the end. What you need to do is give the images a license when you upload them. To do this, upload them here and select a license from the drop-down list. Hope that helps. Cordless Larry (talk) 19:03, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
You may also want to consider uploading them to Wikimedia Commons instead of Wikipedia, as discussed on that page, and give them more descriptive image names. Cordless Larry (talk) 19:06, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

I Have selected a free licence image hopefully that will work. Do you think it will atol ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hurlfordkillie (talk • contribs) 19:07, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

That should work. Cordless Larry (talk) 19:09, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok thats good. But if it doesnt what do you recomend --Hurlfordkillie (talk) 19:13, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

It will work. The problem before was that your weren't specifying any license, so editors weren't to know if you had permission to post the photo. Cordless Larry (talk) 19:16, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Please also note that the link I provided is only for images that are your own work, not for third-party images. There is a different option here for that. Cordless Larry (talk) 19:21, 18 May 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Recent Edits Kilmarnock

I see what you mean about the pictures - the text is all over the place now. I am concerned though when you say "Reverting all of their edits" who are "they" and what edits are you referring to? Would you be kind enough to clarify. I do however agree that many of the pictures are low quality and when they are acceptable quality they don't seem to be in the correct section? Many thanks (Mccarthystumble (talk) 12:17, 19 May 2008 (UTC))

Sorry, I'm referring to User:Hurlfordkillie. Cordless Larry (talk) 22:37, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
thanks for clarifying. I also need to ask what the sockpuppet means? (Mccarthystumble (talk) 10:28, 20 May 2008 (UTC))
Sockpuppets are multiple accounts set up by the same user, usually so that they can edit a page under more than one name and appear to be different people. See WP:SOCK. Cordless Larry (talk) 11:40, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
seems a lot of hassle for not a lot of gain. I would have thought a person would want all of their edits attributed to them (good and bad) to allow improvements. I say this because I have committed a few blunders through my inexperience but others have then contacted me and helped me out. I can see the advantages for a person intent on disruptive edits - so I guess it's as well there are ways of intercepting such activities. Thanks for the info (Mccarthystumble (talk) 11:57, 20 May 2008 (UTC))

[edit] Economy of United Kingdom

Thanks for your comments. However, I did reference it before you deleted my entry. So, next time, you may want to look carefully before reverting other people's entry. I do admit that my summary "UK needs to face the facts" was slightly biased, and I apologize for that. I wanted to point out the fact that although UK is the second largest economy by in Europe, it's GDP PPP Per Capita ranks quite differently. This will give a broader and more insightful view to people around the world about the true standard of living in UK(arguably linked with GDP PPP Per Capita more than GDP Per Capita). zcacb64 27th May 2008, UK.

I don't disagree, but my point is that you selected random countries to mention that are ahead of the UK in terms of GDP per capita. Why did you pick Hong Kong and Singapore rather than any of the other 21 countries ahead of the UK? Given that there are 21 countries ahead of the UK, I don't think we should be picking out random ones to mention in the introduction of the article. My point about referencing was in relation to this edit, but that's of secondary importance. Cordless Larry (talk) 23:01, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Balkans map

Hello. You removed the map with an explanation of "it doesn't correspond to the countries listed here". The "Current common definition" section states: "countries commonly included in the Balkan region" (dark green on map) and "Some other countries are sometimes included" (light green on map). Why do you think the map doesn't correspond to those definitions? Thanks. 3rdAlcove (talk) 19:16, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Because Croatia isn't dark green on the map, but is in the list of countries commonly considered to be part of the Balkans. Cordless Larry (talk) 20:19, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Fair point -though Croatia is sometimes treated as a borderline case because of its being under Austrohungary rather than the Ottomans. I thought it'd be nice to have the other 'borderline' countries (Romania etc.) highlighted in a map. No biggie, in any case. Thanks. 3rdAlcove (talk) 21:41, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
I realise that but we clearly need to have consistency between the text and the map. The problem is that no one will ever agree on what countries belong where when it comes to that part of the article. Cordless Larry (talk) 21:46, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Balkans. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. Alokin (talk) 17:43, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

I was trying to uphold the consensus decision that had been reached on the talk page. Surely the onus should have been on the anonymous IP whose edits I was reverting to make their case on the talk page? Cordless Larry (talk) 12:53, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Use Case Maker

Hello, I wasn't able to see your message before. About your notification, I agree with your proposal so I added my comment to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Use Case Maker page. Thanks for your time, see you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Theriderofrohan (talk • contribs) 09:33, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Balkans

Please help Balkans page war by contributing to the new section fostered to use evidence to examine the problem. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alokin (talk • contribs) 04:59, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

OK, have done. Cordless Larry (talk) 14:07, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] HSMP Page

Hi,

Long time! I was looking at this page again and noted a link in the resources section that appears to be going to an article commercial site (google adwords, etc). Guessing that this should not really be linked to? I also assume that this section of the page has been locked somehow as it does not appear to be editable? Page is at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highly_Skilled_Migrant_Programme —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spooky69 (talk • contribs) 11:01, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for alerting me but I'm not sure which link you're talking about. Is it in the external links section? Perhaps you could tell me what the exact name/url is? Cordless Larry (talk) 11:39, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Censorship controversy

Regarding "censorship controversy" in the article about Flickr, I RE-corrected the material (Removed Iran). In Iran, many websites are censored but not Flickr. I don't understand why you insist on putting untrue information in the article. I.persian (talk) 16:37, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I wasn't the editor who added the information about Iran to the article in the first place, but I did revert your edit because you didn't give a reason for it in the edit summary and it looked somewhat like vandalism. If Flickr isn't censored in Iran, then I agree with you that it clearly shouldn't be listed in the article. I suggest that you make use of the edit summary in future to avoid confusion though. Cordless Larry (talk) 16:42, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
I just thought about this some more and one of the reasons I re-added Iran is that a number of websites, including Flickr's own state that Flickr is blocked there. Perhaps this used to be the case but now it's unblocked? Cordless Larry (talk) 16:47, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi, at least for now Flickr is not censored. Thanks for the clarification. I.persian (talk) 01:25, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] kelvin makenzie

that's ok, i had to check myself :p ninety:one 12:57, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Luka Modrić

Just wanted to point out he passed his medical. I am not sure about the work permit, but I think that might of been cleared if not stated. Govvy (talk) 16:10, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

P.S you might want to archive your talk page, it's a bit long!!

I don't think he has got the work permit yet. Spurs seem to be good at updating their website when transfers are complete, as they did with Giovani dos Santos, and there's been nothing on Modrić‡yet. Cordless Larry (talk) 12:32, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The information in Tier 1 General Migrant Page.

I have tried to include in the Tier 1 General Migrant article, every possible information that is available on the Uk Border Agency web site. I have edited the text to my own wording, but it still reflects the original guidance relating to Points-based immigration system in the United Kingdom. Please if you find anything used by the copy right, please help to change it to not to be using the copy right text, rather than deleting it outright. Thanks.

Tahavur —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tahavur (talk • contribs) 09:05, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

The detail of encyclopedia given in wikipedia is "An encyclopedia (or encyclopædia) is a comprehensive written compendium that contains information on either all branches of knowledge or a particular branch of knowledge. Encyclopedias are divided into articles with one article on each subject covered. The articles on subjects in an encyclopedia are usually accessed alphabetically by article name and can be contained in one volume or many volumes, depending on the amount of material included". Therefore I believe that to include all the minimum information regarding is inline with the above mentioned detail. Its also a branch of knowledge and wikipedia should hold the minimum information needed to provide complete detail regarding it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tahavur (talk • contribs) 00:49, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
That quote does not specify how much detail articles should go into. Please read WP:NOTGUIDE, which states that "a Wikipedia article should not read like a how-to style manual of instructions, advice (legal, medical, or otherwise) or suggestions, or contain how-tos". The page on the BIA website which you've added the information from "explains the points-based assessment you need to pass to meet the requirements under the highly skilled worker category (Tier 1 General) of the points-based system to work in the United Kingdom". It therefore contravenes WP:NOTGUIDE. Cordless Larry (talk) 08:33, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sarajevo

I do not know which of the municipalities make up the urban area of Sarajevo, but I'd guess that the six the article states is probably correct. I simply noticed that the area and population for the city proper should only include the area and population of those four municipalities that make up the city proper. Do you think you can find the area of the city proper as opposed to listing the area of the urban area? --Criticalthinker (talk) 04:03, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your opinion

Hi! Can you please participate in this discussion, regarding the terminology for the Romanies [2]? AKoan (talk) 10:22, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Stein Rokkan Prize for Comparative Social Science Research

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This is a mistake. I've noted so at Talk:Stein Rokkan Prize for Comparative Social Science Research. Cordless Larry (talk) 22:29, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] London

Hi there,

I see that you have been working on London - and I was wondering if I could help out! I've worked quite a bit on that article, so I'd be happy to perform any clean up, reference finding etc.

Thanks, The Helpful One (Review) 13:05, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

I would suggest working on the references so that they all use citation templates, but they seem to be in a pretty good state already. I guess it could do with some copy-editing here and there if you're looking for something to do? Cordless Larry (talk) 15:29, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
I would try - but I'm not that good at copy editing - so I'll work on those refs I guess! :) --The Helpful One (Review) 21:09, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Good work. Seems there were some references that needed converting. Cordless Larry (talk) 17:35, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, there's a couple of PDF references that I haven't converted and <ref>See: [[List of cities by GDP]]</ref> - is also there, so I'm unsure what to do about that one... The Helpful One (Review) 18:46, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Is there any reason that the references to PDFs can't be converted? As for the reference to List of cities by GDP, that should presumably be integrated into the main text as a link? Cordless Larry (talk) 19:15, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
OK, I'll convert the PDF refs to cite webs, and integrate as you said. The Helpful One (Review) 19:42, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Y Done.The Helpful One (Review) 20:04, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Notability of TheTrainLine

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[edit] Re: Derry

Hi there,

Sure, I'll see what I can do with it! :)

The Helpful One (Review) 22:33, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Great. Don't feel you have to do all of them! There's quite a few that need fixing. Cordless Larry (talk) 22:37, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
I use a script to find the ones that have problems, to install it go to Special:Preferences - the last Editing Gadget - ref tools tick it. Then clear cache. When you edit, the button on the very right, is "Cite". Click on that then on Error Check, select all of the options and select "Check for selected errors". Once you've done that you'll have a list of errors to fix (you can use the web,news,book,journal buttons to create the respective cite web template. My suggestion would be to copy the results from the Error checking, starting with the words error checking down to the bottom into Word or something like that - then it's a nice easy table to deal with! The Helpful One (Review) 22:42, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know. I have the tool installed but I hadn't investigated the error checking part. I'll give it a go. Cordless Larry (talk) 22:43, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
OK, I'll start on Derry tommorow - do you think that London should go through PR? Or do the sources still need reliability? The Helpful One (Review) 22:45, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure really. To be honest, I've never really been involved in that process. Cordless Larry (talk) 23:00, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Can you give me a dif? Because it must have been with the use of some JavaScript, if so - feel free to revert. The Helpful One (Review) 10:14, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
It was part of this edit. Cordless Larry (talk) 10:18, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Yep, that was just a script - so if you want to change it, feel free. The Helpful One (Review) 10:22, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


OK, I've finished fixing references as much as I can! Here's the few edits that just need your interpretation, as to what template should be used:

  • <ref>This is the official Post Town as defined by [[Royal Mail]].</ref>
  • <ref>Change of District Name (Derry) Order 1984</ref>
  • <ref>Sections 7, 8 and 132 of the Local Government Act (Northern Ireland) 1972 (Eliz II 20 & 21 c.9)</ref>
  • <ref name="LP2003">Letters Patent certifying the arms of the City of Londonderry issued to Derry City Council, sealed by Garter and Norroy and Ulster Kings of Arms dated [[April 30]], [[2003]]</ref>
  • <ref>Genealogical Office, Dublin: GO Ms 60, ''Sketches of arms by Richard Carney'', fol. 47</ref>
  • <ref>College of Arms, London: ''The Arms of Peers of Ireland and some Commoners, fol. 133d (c.1652)</ref>
  • <ref>L E Rothwell, ''An inquiry initiated by Derry City Council into the ensigns armourial and related matters of the City of Londonderry''</ref>
  • <ref>Letters Patent ratifying and confirming the arms of the City of Londonderry sealed by Garter and Norroy & Ulster Kings of Arms dated [[April 28]], [[1952]]</ref>

Hope this helps, The Helpful One (Review) 13:05, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

OK, thanks. I'll try to sort those out when I have time. Cordless Larry (talk) 14:56, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Superleague Formula

Hi, just to let you know I had already opened a discussion this morning at the WikiProject Football. Bye. --Angelo (talk) 21:32, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

OK, thanks for letting me know. I'll make a note there. Cordless Larry (talk) 21:37, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Archiving

Hello :) . I would strongly advise that you move old discussions from this page to an archive. Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk | Sign 21:32, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Problem is, I have lots of links elsewhere (on talk pages, etc.) that link to specific sections of this page and I don't want to break them. Cordless Larry (talk) 21:35, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Advice on British ethnic group neologisms

Hello there! This is interesting stuff - infact, it's one that's been brought up at least twice before, of course agreeing that these neologisms need to stop (one of these is found here). That is also my stance, but I've noticed its continued, on, and on, and on, and on, which is a shame.

Some of these articles are outright original research, others are simply ridiculous (by which I mean they are spoiling the integrity of Wikipedia with the possibility of being ridiculed as serious entries). I think one or two could be reasonable articles, whilst others ought to be merged.

I will share my concerns, again, with this user (who also uses an ip starting 90.2xxx). --Jza84 |  Talk  16:42, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

You have my fullest support with an en masse deletion, and one of the best lists to copy over is found at the link above. I've also shared my grave concern with the user in question, and a cursory glance at his/her talk page shows they have been notified several times about this issue. --Jza84 |  Talk  16:50, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
By co-incidence, I reverted this gentleman today, not knowing there was a link. See Special:Contributions/90.216.170.233. Not good reading I'm afraid. :S --Jza84 |  Talk  17:25, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Looks like a good list! Some of the not sure-ers I'd actually nom too - I'm thinking Cape Verdean migration to Britain? But eitherway, it'd be a great start. :) --Jza84 |  Talk  21:44, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Assyrians in the UK

And in what shape or form is this not notable?Gabr-el 04:18, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

As stated on the template, the article does not assert why this (very small according to the population estimate) group is notable. Surely the information would be better placed at Assyrian diaspora? Cordless Larry (talk) 07:46, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
5,000 may be small by today's standards, but 5,000 is just under 0.5% of the entire Chaldo-Assyrian population. Thus its notability is in that. I will see if I can get some sources, but the number for 1.2 million Assyrians is cited in the Assyrians article. Gabr-el 16:37, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
That argument relies on the reference for the 5,000 figure actually supporting it, which it doesn't. Cordless Larry (talk) 16:39, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
Well I haven't found yet a 5,000 reference, but I found something of equal notability. On the article i added in a ref to a British politician named Stephen Pound, who has been very vocal in his support. I will find more soon. Gabr-el 19:30, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
I'm not really sure that that establishes notability on its own, but carry on with the good work. Cordless Larry (talk) 20:00, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Done

There are now 4 references, including one by a British Member of Parliament who stated that there were 8,000 Assyrians in the UK. Thanks for motivating me to improve the article; I also had the pleasure of finding out that my brethren there are not 5,000 but 8,000. Gabr-el 00:07, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding Your recent Afd Nominations

Hello There!!!!

I really appreciate your effort in bringing these articles under light. I cant believe there were so many.

Happy Editing!!!!

Hitro 17:58, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I hope they get deleted because the editors involved have been warned numerous times about notability, original research and referencing but have never taken heed so I don't see current promises to improve the articles being kept. Cordless Larry (talk) 18:02, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] London

I agree with you 100% that the artists linked with london should be referenced or at least, those without an obvious link should be removed. Personally I don't think that Paul McCartney should be there as he is and always will be linked with Liverpool. Likewise I am not sure about Yoko Ono as I am not sure if she lives in London, and has no great historical link with the city. Having thought about it more, I would probably have left your edit as it stands and deleted those two for starters. Deckchair (talk) 21:52, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Shall we do that then? Cordless Larry (talk) 21:55, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
It is probably a good idea to limit it to artists with a stronger connection to London than to any other major city's music scene. Sourcing would also be useful. One can connect any artist to London if one tries hard enough. Brilliantine (talk) 22:53, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
[3] Is a useful place to start in terms of sources. Brilliantine (talk) 22:55, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
Done. Cordless Larry (talk) 23:40, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

(<)Nice one. Others that can probably stay/be added if sourcing is found: Pink Floyd (from Cambridge but most associated with London), The Yardbirds, Led Zeppelin, Iron Maiden, Elvis Costello, Fleetwood Mac, The Police. Not sure how many you want... Brilliantine (talk) 00:29, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Oh, and Blur of course, very important for them to go in there. Brilliantine (talk) 00:32, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
Can I leave it to you to find references and add them? I'm a bit busy with an AfD at the moment and I only really made the original edit to correct what I saw as a mistake. Cordless Larry (talk) 00:34, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
I can try, though this is the kind of thing it is a real pain finding references for. I may have to wait till tomorrow. Brilliantine (talk) 00:36, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

(<-)Added the ones I could find easy references for, any more may be too many anyway). Brilliantine (talk) 01:11, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Croatia/Participants

I have removed banned users, deleted and stale accounts from this list and added new users (they are informed). This is OK ?--Rjecina (talk) 00:45, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Looks fine. I see you also added other users, which isn't advisable, but you seem have to have sorted that out now. In future, invite them to add themselves by posting a comment on their talk pages or something similar. Cordless Larry (talk) 11:28, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Ethnic group articles

Hey Cordless Larry. I have responded to that and will take part in discussion as soon as I get a couple of things sorted here. Regards, ~ Troy (talk) 17:55, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Hello!!!

I will definitely inject my view at this discussion, thanks for notifying. Hitro 19:21, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Hello there! I will also lend my hand here. However, I intend to be aggressive (for want of another word) in going through these and removing an uncited material. I think that will show the community just how bad these articles are. --Jza84 |  Talk  22:04, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] i need a birth date

i can't find a birth date anywhere for hugo adam bedau i was wondering if you knew it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.119.109.110 (talk) 15:47, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Yep, you can get them from the Library of Congress Authorities database. It's 23 September 1926. Cordless Larry (talk) 20:11, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Hi there. I didn't know about that - I just picked up how I add references by copying what I saw others had done. I'll try it out. Cheers Fishiehelper2 (talk) 22:05, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cite

Hi. Per Wp:cite, "Citation templates are used to format citations in a consistent way. The use of citation templates is neither encouraged nor discouraged. Templates may be used or removed at the discretion of individual editors, subject to agreement with other editors on the article. Because templates can be contentious, editors should not change an article with a distinctive citation format to another without gaining consensus." As the principal editor of the Bentley article, and as one of the main people who patrol and update that page regularly, I do not think the migration to template is necessary. In fact, I've written a dozen FAs without templates and without objections. Cheers. Chensiyuan (talk) 14:30, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough. I hadn't seen that quote. Cordless Larry (talk) 14:54, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Indonesian British

An article that you have been involved in editing, Indonesian British, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Indonesian British. Thank you. cab (talk) 13:58, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Problem

As you may have noted, we've had a very serious problem recently with editors attempting, for whatever reason, to delete numerous valid, notable, and sourced ethnic group articles; in some cases they were successful and this has caused extreme disruption to our project. I had assumed, from your own conduct, that you were such an editor. Badagnani (talk) 18:16, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

As I mentioned at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Georgian British, I'm worried by your use of "our project". Remember that there is no ownership of articles on Wikipedia. As such, any editor is free to nominate articles for deletion. If they have been successful in this, it is because of consensus and can't be considered disruption as you suggest. Cordless Larry (talk) 18:57, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Is "Afghan British" a neoligism?

Hello. If it is, then what about other articles like "Black British" and others? Shouldn't you also be placing this tag on those articles also? —Preceding unsigned comment added by PakistaniNisar (talk • contribs) 05:29, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Terms such as Black British are commonly used, including in official statistics, whereas Afghan British isn't as far as I'm aware. If you can find sources that use Afghan British then please add them to the article and the tag can be removed. Cordless Larry (talk) 09:44, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
Ok, that is alright now. But there are many other articles like these with obvious neoligisms. Can you please look at the following and if appropriate place the neologism tag on them? Thanks
I realise that there are lots of them, but I'm trying to restrict myself to the X-British ones for now because I don't have the time to tag them all. Cordless Larry (talk) 18:43, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
Can you please tag the ones I mentioned above at least? It should only take a few minutes. Thanks. PakistaniNisar (talk) 08:07, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
I'll take a look but I don't think they're all neologisms. For example, there are some references to Afro-French in news sources and this book has Afro-German in the title. Afro-Irish isn't an article but a redirect to Black people in Ireland, and Korean African is a disambiguation page. Cordless Larry (talk) 19:10, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Afro-Slovaks is a prime example though and, as such, I've nominated it for deletion. Cordless Larry (talk) 23:49, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Unilateral, undiscussed blanking

At the very least, it would show the most thoughtfulness and consideration to move the material you find offensive to "Discussion." Even better would be to actually utilize "Discussion" and "fact" tags. Badagnani (talk) 23:43, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

It's not as if the material cannot be recovered from the article history if necessary. And as the Jimbo Wales quote makes clear, removing potentially false information is preferable to tagging it. "Blanking" is a strong word to use - it's not as if I blanked the article, just removed unreferenced text, some of which wouldn't belong there even if it was cited. Cordless Larry (talk) 23:45, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Edits

I know that you find many of my edits disruptive, but plenty of them are sourced. such as the popualtions of Afro-Caribbean communities. The figure for people born in that country alone is CLEARLY and underestimate of true numbers, and as for the Caymanian people of Jamaican descent category. I agree it shouldn't have been created and I was just trying to get ride of it myself. Stevvvv4444 (talk) 15:46, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Some of them are sourced, but what I reverted here (something that you added when you weren't logged in) clearly wasn't. If you can't find sources, please don't add material such as this to Wikipedia. If you continue to do so, I'll request that you be blocked because you have been warned plenty of times. As for the category you created, if you want it deleted, place a {{db-author}} tag on it. Cordless Larry (talk) 16:02, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Diff

Thank you for your comment. Will you kindly provide me with the diff of the edit to which you are referring? I certainly did not make any edit of the sort you mention after the friend to which you appear to have reported me commented on my page. Badagnani (talk) 03:35, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Here is the edit. I had warned you about making the same comment about me in other discussions. Cordless Larry (talk) 09:54, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Assyrians

Please stop removing the material, especially about the Churches in England. I am after all from England and an Assyrian myself. I can't use myself as a reference but you can personally trust me. Right now, I don't have much time to find a site. But especially do not remove the "aturaya" and "chldenaya" words, they are referenced in other articles! Must we reference the fact that English people call themselves English? Gabr-el 23:06, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment. Please read this for why it is preferable to remove unsourced information. You might also like to take a look at Wikipedia:Verifiability. If references exist in other articles then please restore the information and use those references. Cordless Larry (talk) 23:11, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
I beg of you to give me the benefit of the doubt for now. All the information can be sourced, but just give me a week or more, I haven't got the time to find the appropriate sites. Gabr-el 00:33, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
I don't really see what the problem is. If you can find the sources then just restore the material to the article in a week's time and reference it. It's all there in the article history so you can easily restore it once you're ready. Cordless Larry (talk) 09:08, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
I don't understand your obsession with that rule. I asked you nicely. As an Assyrian from the UK, I am pretty sure you know that if I know something about self-designation, or about the religious services I attended every Sunday, I wouldn't lie about them. There are plenty of unreferenced information elsewhere. Gabr-el 17:07, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
I realise that you asked me nicely and I appreciate that you know what you are talking about. But, as you say, it's a rule. WP:BURDEN is an official Wikipedia policy and it should therefore be upheld. Besides, I first discussed this with you back in September and I tagged it as requiring more citations a month ago, so it's not as if I haven't given you a chance to find references. Cordless Larry (talk) 17:20, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Macedonians in Britian

Thank you for the tips. But as you may of may not be aware the information posted is correct. I an unaware if you have any actual knowledge on the subject or are just removing it because you believe it to be incorrect. If so I would suggest that do some research on the topic before making deconstructive reverts as you did, which is not in the spirit of this project. There are other ways to question the legitimatacy of the section for example by post a citation request until the source can be found. Thank you. PMK1 (talk) 23:58, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

According to WP:BURDEN the burden is on the editor who adds material to supply references. This is especially important when you are trying to shore up an article while it is under consideration for deletion. Cordless Larry (talk) 00:01, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
Yes but always try adding a {Fact} tag to avoid users questioning your removal of the text. Also try to provide time for the user to find the "direct" source required for the sourcing. PMK1 (talk) 10:14, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
As you will have noticed, I have already tagged the offending section. I expect that you will provide a source presently. Cordless Larry (talk) 11:07, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
Basically, yes. Thank you and merry christmas. PMK1 (talk) 12:10, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Do you expect a sourced tag for every single sentence made? Or every single statistic? I added as many sources as i deemed necessary. I am sure that the article as a whole meets WP:V. PMK1 (talk) 22:09, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

I think there might have been some confusion. My comment on your talk page was about the Macedonian Australians article, not Macedonians in Britain. Cordless Larry (talk) 08:02, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
Oh, I know. i just chose not to start a new section. I assumed that you knew what I was responding to, seeing as you were the first to ask. PMK1 (talk) 10:53, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
In that case, I don't see how you can claim that it meets WP:VERIFY. Take the Werribee or Perth sections, for instance. They hardly have any sources. Cordless Larry (talk) 13:51, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Ethiopians in the UK

I am happy that I have finally created an article that is up to the standards of many others, and I do believe sourcing is important, I do believe the vast majority of this article is sourced, and I would appreciate if you could place the citation needed templates next to the sentences that need references so that I can fix it. Thanks Stevvvv4444 (talk) 21:37, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Will do. Cordless Larry (talk) 21:38, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] adding links confusion?

sorry about the confusion. I was told by a good source that I could add my (non profitable) football blog to the club it related to. I did it purely because I thought it would be of interest to the reader and so more people would read my blogs about that certain football club.

I also didnt realise that the people who 'undid' my edit were 'editers' or 'moderators'. this is all new to me. Sorry for the confusion, Im not a spammer and wont do it again. But how come some blogs are allowed and others are not?

Kind regards,

Tim —Preceding unsigned comment added by TimmyK07 (talk • contribs) 13:42, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

That's fine, no worries. When you say that some blogs are allowed and some are not, it's hard for me to comment without examples. It might just be that links to blogs haven't been spotted and so haven't been removed. Cordless Larry (talk) 14:06, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] My apologies

Only just read your messages(after id tried to add more links thinking it was just some random deleting my link to my blog). Honestly didnt realise I was doing anything wrong and wont add links again. Just wasnt sure how the whole wikipedia thing works.

My sincere apologies again.

Tim —Preceding unsigned comment added by TimmyK07 (talk • contribs) 13:58, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

No problem. I've just posted a welcome to Wikipedia message on your user talk page which sets out the basics of how Wikipedia works. Cordless Larry (talk) 14:08, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ethnic groups in various countries deletions

I have left a note for the editor you reported. If I might offer my perception, I think asking for civility is reasonable but clearly you are nominating articles that some editors don't feel should be targeted (as is demonstrated by a quick read of your talk page). They seem to feel targeted since you've nominated many of the articles in a seemingly systematic way. People get frustrated and upset sometimes. They should be civil, but you might be well served to do your best to let the over the top comments go. If they act inappropriately let someone else give them a warning, it reflects badly on them and not you. Your taking them on is likely to further infuriate the situation and get you ensnared in drama. This is only a suggestion along the lines of: don't take it personally. They're pissed. That's life. If you feel that the situation is serious enough that it requires scrutiny that's certainly up to you, but sometimes it only excacerbates the conflict. Regarding the substance of their arguments at AfD, I would definitely let that go. If they don't explain their reasoning well that's their problem. Someone pissed at your nom isn't going to be happy to be lectured by you on how they should comment. See what I'm saying? If their logic is weak that's their problem and the closing nom will take it into account. Clearly some other editors want to include ethnic group articles and are not happy about your AfDs of these article subjects (while other editors agree with you that they need to be thinned). Everyone should be civil, but maybe you can just be above the petty feuding and let the over the top comments of others reflect badly on them. It's usually better to let as much go as you can rather than getting caught up in conflicts and drama with other editors. No one takes those comments seriously. They're obviously expressions of people who are pissed. Those are my long winded thoughts. Perhaps some of them will be helpful. I'm going to wait to see what the other editor has to say and we'll take it from there. ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:28, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Or if you'd rather I stay out of it or haven't found my comments useful, just let me know. Happy Holidays. ChildofMidnight (talk) 06:02, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Fair enough, you have a point. It would be nice to get an apology but I will try to ignore the incivility. Thanks for trying to help. Cordless Larry (talk) 09:48, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
We'll see what happens. I refactored the title on this discussion per your valid point that they aren't exactly ethnic group articles, although they fall under that more general category. I'm not sure about the apology. Saying you should be banned for a pattern of AfD noms they don't like is uncivil, but someone thinking that you should be banned because they don't like your methods of building the encyclopedia is another matter entirely. I'd be satisfied if the over the top comments stopped. I am sorry that the comments have caused you trouble, it's definitely an interesting way of expressing unhappiness with a nom. Merry Christmas and enjoy your holiday celebrations whatever they may be. ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:19, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
In fairness, the other editor has suggested merges where notability isn't well established (for a stand alone article). They also said: "It's much better to work with our encyclopedia in a building/improvement mode rather than a damage-control mode." So as far as a "more constructive way", their view is pretty clear that they think putting these articles up at AfD rather than merging or adding to them isn't constructive. So asking for collaboration, if that's the process you're going to choose is stretching things a bit too far. I would also suggest that it's not necessary to engage them on their talk page or at the AfDs. They're clearly unhappy with these articles being sent to AfD in the first place, and I don't see any good coming from provoking further explanation as their view has already been made VERY clear to you. Right? ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:17, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Merges are fine. I effectively suggested that before here. However, there needs to be some material to actually merge. Take Venezuelan British, for example, which could be merged into Latin American Britons. All there is is the population figure though. Other than that, most of these articles have zero sourced content. The population figures are given at Ethnic groups in the United Kingdom in any case, so what exactly do these articles add to Wikipedia? Cordless Larry (talk) 23:45, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Right but check this out. If you have 10 groups with a couple thousand or a few hundred, that gives you a nice little list. That may be useful in the future (especially if it's sourced) as those demographics maybe change or even grow into a notable group. And even in the meantime, it's a nice resource to see how many of certain groups there are, even if those particular groups aren't established enough to be notable. ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:09, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
Well hang on now, first you said where could they be emrged to and then you point out the Ethnic groups in the United Kingdom article. So maybe that would be a place? If there's really nothing else in the article you could redirect. At least that way the edit history is still there. Always best to suggest on talk page first of course and see what folks say. Propose redirecting or merging. I haven't looked to see if there is other info, but I guess they like to include notable persons too, which there may not be room for in the Ethnic Groups UK article. So maybe a Ce la vie approach would be best? There are other areas to clean up. Have you checked out wp: new page patrol? ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:13, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

I see there's also religion and language information in the template box. So I think they just like to organize the information by having individual articles on the groups, however small. Why do you think it makes the encyclopedia better to get rid of them? (this is my third comment, but I keep having new thoughts...) ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:16, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

I agree that the ethnic groups in the UK article is a good place to merge to, although I suspect that any such proposal will meet with equal resistance from certain editors as the AfDs. But I'd be willing to try. On the religion/language point, you'll note that none of that is sourced and it just replicates the information from the main article on each of the ethnic groups, as far as I can see. So the Israeli British article just tells us which religions and languages Israelis in general practice and speak, for example. Cordless Larry (talk) 03:00, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
I appreciate your willingness to try different approaches. I'm still curious why, facing this level of resistance, you're focused on this area of the encyclopedia to clean up? ChildofMidnight (talk) 06:42, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
I guess the topic just interests me. My job involves working with data on population groups and I wanted to use the knowledge I have from that to contribute to Wikipedia. I came across the Latin American Britons article and saw that it was really badly sourced and what sources were given were used out of context or had been used to create extrapolations, violating WP:OR, so I set to work trying to improve it. I then discovered that this was a general trend with Wikipedia articles on ethnic and migrant groups, with data blatantly misrepresented, often in such a way as to make the groups appear bigger than they actually are, possibly for nationalistic reasons on the part of some editors (for example, when working on Cypriot British, which I'm quite proud of, I was called a racist, told to learn to speak Greek if I wanted to edit articles and told to "Leave the Cypriot Britons article for Cypriots to edit", here - note the irony in me being called a racist and then told that I shouldn't edit an article because it wasn't about my own ethnic group!). Similarly, some editors seem to think that because they belong to a particular community and therefore "know best", they don't need to provide sources - see here. The other problem I have with a lot of these articles (and categories also) is that they seem to represent a move to bring ethnicity into everything on Wikipedia, even when it's not relevant. That's why I nominated List of Jews in sports for deletion, because in the vast majority of cases someone's Jewishness has nothing to do with their sporting activities. Just as we don't have a list of Jewish criminals, so we shouldn't have a list of Jews in sport. Hope this makes sense in terms of explaining my position. Then again, maybe I've been reading too much Stuart Hall... Cordless Larry (talk) 10:50, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
PS, I should say that none of the complaints about bias in the above comment apply to Badagnani. This is a wider rant! Cordless Larry (talk) 11:24, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
Interesting. I want to think on it more, but my initial reaction is that what you've said is reasonable as far as the clean up, and I don't think anyone but the nationalists would object. As far as whether article focused on ethnicity or national background is appropriate, I think that's more complicated. On the one hand I see your point, but on the other hand I was just working on some polka articles and artists and they are distinctive as Polish Americans. So there is cultural "baggage", if you will. I still don't exactly understand the need to delete (as opposed to letting be, or merging) the smaller ethnic group articles. Especially as it's caused conflict. It seems like you'd have more success collaboratively working to make the sourcing and content better on the articles you're interested in. Thanks for discussing it with me. It's interesting. I saw one person comment at AfD that British is a nationality and not an ethnicity, and some people took it as a nationalistic rant. But I think you and I understand it to be just the opposite, as I think the editor was saying that trying to put nationalism into everything isn't exactly appropriate, and where people come from doesn't define who they are. But as with my Polka example (true with food and other cultural activities as well, and often times religion) there are distincitve cultural and ethnic threads that are tied to historical roots in particular nations. I'm not sure what the balance is. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:17, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
I absolutley understand that ethnicity and nationality are sometimes important, as are other identities such as sexual, class and gender ones, but we should be careful not to write ethnicity into everything in cases where it doesn't have a bearing and risk reifying it. That was my main problem with the list of Jews in sport. If their Jewishness mattered in individual cases, then of course that should be including in the individual articles, but it didn't justify a list for me. Cordless Larry (talk) 21:20, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
Yet there are lots of reliable sources establishing the notability of that subject. So I don't see how it can be excluded. ChildofMidnight (talk) 21:27, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Happy New Year

I don't always agree with your stubborn approach against Barian Fooish articles, but it's worth a lot of respect anyway. Cheers and take care cleaning this mess! NVO (talk) 17:43, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] X British articles

Well, I see you've been busy lately renaming them. I have a question, though: couldn't those titles be equally classified as descriptive, which would make them acceptable? SamEV (talk) 22:55, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, you need to be more specific. Do you mean that the "X British" format could be called descriptive? If so, I think the "X in the United Kingdom" format fits the bill better as per WP:NEO. "X British", where it is not already commonly used, involves coining a neologism. Cordless Larry (talk) 05:55, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
"Do you mean that the "X British" format could be called descriptive?"
Correct. You're also correct that the longer phrases are descriptive. I'm arguing that they both are. SamEV (talk) 04:47, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
I'm not really convinced. "X British" isn't so much a description in the sense meant at WP:NEO but rather a compound adjective. Cordless Larry (talk) 10:44, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
Not so, Larry. "British" is also a noun ("the people native to or inhabiting Great Britain."[4]).
Let me say that I meant originally to include in this discussion 'X Briton' articles as well, as we did at Latin American Britons. "Briton", you may agree, is unquestionably a noun, isn't it? Let me note also that WP:NEO is not categorical; it does leave room for using neologisms.
Nevertheless, the issue is that these are not actually neologisms. Take "Belgian" and "Briton". They're the well-known terms for citizens, or inhabitants, or descendants of citizens or inhabitants, of Belgium[5] and the UK respectively. Now, because the format 'Booian Fooian' is ubiquitous, it is instantly recognizable; It is for that reason that, even if you've never heard of Belgian Britons, you instantly understand what "Belgian Britons" refers to: Britons of Belgian ancestry.
Because "Belgian Britons" is in an established, well-known format, it is immediately understood: the term is descriptive. SamEV (talk) 05:09, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
Perhaps, but I think I still prefer the Latin Americans in the United Kingdom format, if for no other reason than that the article includes information about people who are not British citizens. If you feel strongly about this you should propose a move back though. Cordless Larry (talk) 09:03, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
Of course, there's an obvious symmetry there: the article is now about "Latin Americans", per the title. Yet it includes UK-born citizens, who are therefore presented as immigrants from Latin America. You've basically turned them into foreigners; in their own country of birth. Why aren't you equally bothered by that, as you are by the extension of "British" and "Briton" to non-citizen residents?
Maybe the solution is a split: one article for citizens, one for noncitizens. Your opinion? SamEV (talk) 01:36, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
In short, I am as bothered by that but I can't think of a simply way to overcome it. The previous title, Latin American Britons, also suggests that these people are foreigners. Remember, though, that the census data which forms the basis of the article is about people born in Latin America, not the UK. In principle, I would support the establishment of two articles, but I doubt there is enough material for that. Cordless Larry (talk) 10:38, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Really? How does "Latin American Britons" suggest that they're foreigners?
And if it does, wouldn't the same apply to all titles in the same format: "Malaysian Britons", "Egyptian British", "Barbadian British", or "Greek Britons", to name a few? All of them say that they cover citizens, too. You seem to be telling me that you're across-the-board opposed to that format. Are you indeed? SamEV (talk) 21:44, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm opposed to us coining neologisms. If you can find evidence that the term Latin American Britons is widely used, then I'm happy for the article to be called that. You're right that it perhaps doesn't make the group sound so foreign as Latin Americans in the UK but, as I say, the data used in the article is mostly about people born in Latin America anyway. Furthermore, there's as much a problem with suggesting that all of these people are British as there is with suggesting they're foreign. Cordless Larry (talk) 21:56, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
May I suggest that you take this up at Talk:Latin Americans in the United Kingdom. If you want to rename the article, suggest it there and we can establish consensus. Cordless Larry (talk) 21:59, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
I haven't decided how to proceed yet.
But suggesting that they're all British is not "a problem", Larry. That's because, let me remind you, the only good definition of British we could find in a reliable source suggested that it means 'residents of UK'. That would make all these people British — the citizen and the non-citizen alike. So where's this problem you keep perceiving? Per what reliable source? SamEV (talk) 22:23, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
My understanding of "British" in this sense is that it means British citizen. Cordless Larry (talk) 22:31, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
I know. But your understanding runs contrary to at least one reliable source. SamEV (talk) 22:37, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
This source states that it can be used to describe the citizens of the UK. Cordless Larry (talk) 23:16, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Yes. In full, the definition reads: "The citizens or inhabitants of the UK.". That supports what I've said. If I ever implied that citizens are not included (!), I apologize, Larry. SamEV (talk) 23:27, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
I understand that there is more than one definition and no, you didn't imply that citizens are not included. The point is that British can mean just the citizens of the UK, or all inhabitants (amongst other things). Cordless Larry (talk) 23:34, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
OK. 'Multiple definitions' screams "NPOV issue". So let's work to find a way to include those definitions, so that we can be fair to both groups of people: the foreigners and the citizens (especially the native-born). SamEV (talk) 01:38, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
I suggest that we take this discussion elsewhere to get wider input. Any ideas where? Cordless Larry (talk) 11:42, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Your call. SamEV (talk) 03:10, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
I suggest here. Cordless Larry (talk) 08:53, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
OK. Start a thread over there, please. SamEV (talk) 00:13, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Could you do it? It's you who is contesting my renaming, after all. Cordless Larry (talk) 00:18, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Ah, I see... SamEV (talk) 00:50, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Nordic

I must admit at first I didn't see anything about Finland in the article. I hope I sorted that now. Re your other point. Scandinavian is a clearer ethnic label than Nordic. Finland is not Scandinavian of course, save for Scandinavian immigrants and settlement there, and except through that Finland isn't Scandinavian at all, and it would be quite POV to have an article grouping Finns and Scandinavians together like that. But "Nordic" is just dodgy generally. It has certain racial connotations also which probably mean it shouldn't be used if not necessary. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 22:24, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

OK, good point. Is Iceland considered Scandinavian though? Cordless Larry (talk) 22:33, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Ethnically, I'd think most people would regard it as such, even if the language is no longer comprehensible with mainland Scandinavian (Danish, Norwegian, Swedish). Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 22:43, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Finland and Iceland are sometimes considered Scandinavian. ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:04, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Yes, I realise that, but I didn't think they were generally considered Scandinavian and wondered if the categorisation was a bit too controversial to use in an article title such as Scandinavian migration to the United Kingdom. But Nordic seems at least as controversial too. Cordless Larry (talk) 23:15, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
What do the sources say? ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:21, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, what sources are you referring to? Cordless Larry (talk) 23:23, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
There are sources at Scandinavia that support the inclusion of Finland and Iceland and sources that don't. Interestingly in light of the above discussion, the article suggests that including Iceland is less common than including Finland. Cordless Larry (talk) 23:36, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
I guess you could specify what you mean by Scandanavia. Or retitle the whole article. But it look sokay to me. Has someone objected to a specific part? ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:09, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
No, I just queried the fact that it had been moved from Nordic migration to the United Kingdom. Cordless Larry (talk) 10:04, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Latin Americans in the United Kingdom merger

Hi, I agree with your reasons for merging. There may be some groups with enough content for a separate page. In these cases, their section can have a {main} reference to their page. I have seen this effect in various other cases: a collection of small, mostly trivial pages that have something in common like tribes in an ethnic group, valleys in a mountain range or churches in a town. By giving each member of the collection a section in a larger article on the collection as a whole, with a redirect page to that section, anyone looking for member will reach the content on the member just as easily as if it had its own page. The larger article lets readers compare the members. Aymatth2 (talk) 13:50, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] British Cypriots

Hi. I am reviewing your article, British Cypriots, for GA and have entered some initial comments about the articcle at Talk:British Cypriots/GA1. I did a little copy editing of the article, which I hope you don't mind. Please feel free to contact me with questions or comments. Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 16:24, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Good work Cordless Larry, I believe the only UK ethnic group article to have this distinction is British Bangladeshi. Stevvvv4444 (Talk) 17:11, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Ghanaians in the United Kingdom

Hi, just to let you know I have left a comment on the tlak page of Ghanaians in the United Kingdom (Talk:Ghanaians in the United Kingdom), it would be great if you could get involved, and I would appreciate your help. Thanks User:Stevvvv4444 (talk) 13:53, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Somalis in the UK

Hi. I realize you reverted my edit, but in doing so, you also undid all of my other changes. I've therefore reinstated said other changes, and retained the OECD census figure you added. I've also renamed its refname to Census2001 since you say that is where the figure was taken from. Middayexpress (talk) 14:18, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes, sorry, that was the only way I could revert the edit. I was in the process of restoring your other changes. Cordless Larry (talk) 14:19, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Re: User:Stevvvv4444

I've passed comment on my talk page, and have also been quite brutal and left my concernd at User:Stevvvv4444's talk page. I do think this is really quite bad for WP for reasons left at those two points, and think it needs to stop. --Jza84 |  Talk  20:43, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I would certainly support taking this further. Cordless Larry (talk) 21:05, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Lift and strike (Bosnia)

Hey, I'll try to help you out with the Lift and Strike article. I've already made a couple of edits. The way I see it, we have a pretty long way to go, and the main priority now would be to start adding section headings and then filling them in. Hope we can make it a great article. Cool3 (talk) 01:43, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Colombians in the United Kingdom

Hi, i noticed the template that u placed at the top of the article, and I am fully willing to comply, as I want to make this article as good as possible to prove that I am puttin in an effort. As for the single source goes, the content of that source comes from many other places, would citing these individual sources eliminate the current problem? Thanks Stevvvv4444 (talk) 13:43, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it would. Citing original sources is probably preferred in any case. Cordless Larry (talk) 13:48, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Talkback

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[edit] User talk:Jza84

I noticed your comment on Jza84's talk page about Stevvvv4444, but I'm afraid he's not edited since 12th March and has stated that he'll be on wikipedia infrequently this month. I'm unfamiliar with the case, so shan't take any action, so your next best port of call might be WP:ANI. Good luck, Nev1 (talk) 20:07, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

OK, thanks for letting me know. I also realised that he'd not edited in a while. I will take it to the noticeboard. Cordless Larry (talk) 20:09, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Assyrians in the UK (again)

I am not interested in playing a game, whereby I constantly explain to you that there are very few if any links to link the Assyrians. I took photographs of the Chaldean Priest and the Church, and I am an Assyrian of Britain, why would I make this up? Give it some time, stop obsessing about this small article; let it grow out of its stubby length and then perhaps when they're notable enough they might have more citations.

I have seen your edits and you have been careless enough to remove referenced information. If you want to keep playing this remove and add game, fine. Gabr-el 17:33, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

I fully understand your position, but a lack of sources is no excuse for not referencing an article. Please read WP:Verifiability. If you cannot find a reliable source, then the material should not be there. Please provide evidence for your accusation that I "have been careless enough to remove referenced information". Cordless Larry (talk) 17:43, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
Does an image count as a reliable source? Gabr-el 17:57, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
I guess it potentially does. A photo of a person does not necessarily prove who they are though, unless there is something in the photo to identify them. Cordless Larry (talk) 18:10, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
Well, you can see that the photos I added are of a Church and of a Priest. It doesn't say who exactly they are. I am still looking. Gabr-el 18:39, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
I guess they might be worthwhile in and of themselves, but I don't think they're any good as sources. How does a photo support the statement about the current priest? Nothing about the photo confirms that statement. Cordless Larry (talk) 19:55, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
Well you can accept that there is a priest, or you can accept that there isn't one. Assume good faith is a wiki rule too you know. And Burden of Proof is not the same thing as being a total skeptic either. Gabr-el 22:34, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
It says material likely to be challenged. I am not appreciating this obsessive one man crusade of yours against this article, like I said earlier, my patience has worn thin. There are far more preposterous things on Wikipedia that are unreferenced that could do with some of your zealous attention. Gabr-el 22:37, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
I am not obsessed with the one article. I have also removed unsourced material from plenty of other articles. I realise that there are many unsourced articles on WIkipedia, but I obviously can't fix them all. Since ethnic group articles are one of my main interests, I am concentrating on getting those referenced for now. I am assuming good faith in your editing, but good faith does not extend to unreferenced article content. Cordless Larry (talk) 08:00, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Badagnani RFC

Hello, Cordless Larry. Eugene2x (talk · contribs) files WP:Requests for comment/User conduct on Badagnani (talk · contribs). Since you've known him for his AfD conduct, your input on Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Badagnani would appreciated. Thanks.--Caspian blue 01:50, 24 March 2009 (UTC)


[edit] advice

When you come across a page with uncited content, the appropriate thing to do is to look for sources. If you cannot find them, then you can nominate the page for deletion. If you are sure it won't be contested, use Prod--otherwise, AfD.DGG (talk) 07:41, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

What articles are you referring to? Cordless Larry (talk) 11:05, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Political Quarterly

Larry - very belated thanks for undeleting the Political Quarterly entry. Apologies for the length of time that has elapsed, but the fact is that I only recently discovered the article had been restored, and then I completely failed to find how to send you a message on Wikipedia. (I have to say that I've been in the business for 25 years and can figure out most stuff, but Wikipedia's interface has me beat - why doesn't it just have comment boxes like every other Web 2 site?)

But I digress, thanks for doing an excellent edit on the PQ article and adding significant facts that I'd omitted to keep the size down. Please thank Geo Swan too, as it was his message that alerted me to the restoration. As for my PC Pro article, I don't think it was *too* harsh, and you know as well as I that ALL publicity is good publicity!

All the best Dick Pountain —Preceding unsigned comment added by Afonka Bida (talk • contribs) 13:15, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I was amazed that it was deleted too, so I thought it only right to get it restored. Cordless Larry (talk) 13:18, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
I asked a question in a recent {{rfa}} framed around his article. I wonder how useful it would be to ask every {{rfa}} candidate this question? Do you have the URL to Pountain's original contact from the NYRB?
Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 16:04, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
I presume that this is the NYRB article, from a quick Google search. Cordless Larry (talk) 16:12, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Peruvians in the UK

Hi, I have left a comment on the talk page of Peruvians in the United Kingdom which I have attempted to expand. Thanks Stevvvv4444 (talk) 19:48, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

I've commented at Talk:Peruvians in the United Kingdom. Cordless Larry (talk) 22:38, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] New Template

Hi Cordless Larry. I was wondering if you had an opportunity yet to see this new template? It's of that ethnicity-defining type that characterized the edits of our old friend Stevvvv4444, and which were repeatedly deleted. Looks like we may have yet another alternate account on our hands. Let me know what you think. Middayexpress (talk) 13:54, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

I take it that you're suggesting that Stevvvv4444 and 23prootie might be the same person? As you can see from the previous sockpuppet investigation, it's hard to prove it so I'd prefer not to offer a view on that. There is that strange combination of editing articles about ethnicity and pop music again though. Anyway, as for the template, I was happier with the recent "Migration to the UK from X continent" templates than with the old ones which tried to link ethnicity to country of origin. However, this one does seem problematic, particularly the way it uses the term Black British (and links to African American and Afro-Caribbean - i.e. people who have not migrated to the UK from Africa). Cordless Larry (talk) 16:09, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
PS: I'm now almost 100 per cent certain that 23prootie isn't a sockpuppet since they seem to have edited at exactly the same time as Stevvvv4444 (or rather one of Stevvvv4444's IP addresses). Cordless Larry (talk) 20:20, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Yes, I'm aware of the problem and I agree with you on this. The template indeed shouldn't attempt to link ethnicity to country of origin, and it also shouldn't include groups who haven't actually migrated from Africa. Good edit. Middayexpress (talk) 07:17, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
OK, that's good. I've tried to explain this on the template's talk page. Cordless Larry (talk) 07:19, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Hey Cordless Larry. Please have a look at the template's talk page. It seems our friend is having difficulty understanding the logic behind our edits, and things are getting rather heated. Best, Middayexpress (talk) 10:31, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. I've got it on my watchlist. You're doing a good job of making our case. Cordless Larry (talk) 11:01, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Migration

Hey, I'm sorry for leaving you all of sudden, I kinda got bored. Anyway, I've seen what you did and I'm not agreeing with it. The problem with relying on the UK census alone is that, they haven't seem to have figured out how to define most of the ethnicities living and would probably exclude certain ethnic groups. The country-of-origin thing is fine but the problem there is that it excludes British Tamils (not from a single country) and Montserratians (Montserrat is not a country). I suggest let's keep it inclusive and do a ethnicity+country thing ad just wait for the 2011 census.--23prootie (talk) 00:24, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

You might not agree with the census categorisation but it is a published, reliable source. What is the source for the claim you are making? It sounds very much like original research to me. Cordless Larry (talk) 20:26, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
I have no problems with the census. I'm just trying to categorize the leftovers.--23prootie (talk) 00:25, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
And if you're doing that based on your own schema, it's original research and therefore against Wikipedia policy. Cordless Larry (talk) 04:30, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
Please check Ethnic groups in the United Kingdom.That's where I based my edits.--23prootie (talk) 08:18, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] UDA

You must have the wrong IP address. I never edited that page. 212.2.172.178 (talk) 19:37, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

The message I left on your talk page is very old now. It was perhaps someone else using the same IP address. See Special:Contributions/212.2.172.178. Cordless Larry (talk) 19:54, 13 June 2009 (UTC)


[edit] Rangers SF

Thanks for your message. I was looking around the SF talk pages - I do believe it was your message that I had looked at and then started creating it. I think it is better to create seperate team pages and not have them included in the football teams article itself as it clutters it up. I have already noticed that some people do not like that their football team has SF related info on it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Roadblocker (talk • contribs) 18:13, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

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