User talk:Kmusser

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Welcome! This is the best place to ask questions about my maps or to make requests. Questions about sources might already be answered on my data sources page. I do make mistakes, if you find one I've made let me know here and I'll attempt to fix it promptly. I'm much more likely to see messages left here than on individual map talk pages. I can also be reached via AIM at musserk.

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[edit] Article in need of attention from Map Guru

Hey, you helped me out so much with my Plymouth Colony map, as well as some other work, I thought I would bounce an article your way... The article on the Israelites, as well as other articles relating to the ancient Levant, are in some need of maps. I have not been involved with editing them myself, but I think they could greatly benefit from some more consistant maps, and you have such a skill in this area. If you look at the Israelites article specifically, this: File:1759 map Holy Land and 12 Tribes.jpg is the only map that it has, and it could GREATLY benefit from an updated version of this map, showing the allotments given to the Twelve Tribes. Again, I have no connection to the articles, but I did think to myself "These articles need a map!" and then I thought of your name. No rush on these, but just thought I'd see if it was in your interest to take them on. Toodles! --Jayron32.talk.contribs 03:00, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

This one I recommend checking with User:MapMaster - he did a bunch of nice historical maps dealing with the mideast so might have a good basemap of Israel ready to go. If you don't get a response there I could do it but will do the other request below first as they're easier ones. 16:32, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] File:Amur watershed.png

I have posted an opinion at the image page. Happy New Year! Bogomolov.PL (talk) 16:29, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Will do, that should be an easy addition. 16:32, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

On closer inspection there are other mistakes on that map as well, I'm going to do the ones below first and then do a complete re-do on the Amur map. Kmusser (talk) 21:06, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Existing map fixed, more detailed one is in the works. Kmusser (talk) 19:36, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] MNL map update

Happy New Year Kmusser! Can you please update the destination map of MNL that you made?

Below are the destinations that aren't being served from MNL anymore:

Baguio (BAG)
Baler (BQA)
Cuyo (CYP)
El Nido (ENI)
Frankfurt (FRA)
Minneapolis/St. Paul (MSP)
Nanning (NNG)
Saipan (SPN)
San Fernando (SFE)
San Jose, Antique (EUQ)
Taytay (RZP)
Yap (YAP)

Below are new destinations served from MNL:

Borongan (BPR)
Cauayan (CYZ)
Daet (DTE)
Gasan (MRQ)
Ormoc (OMC)
San Jose, Occidental Mindoro (SJI)

Below are former direct flights that are now non-stop or vice-versa:

Dammam (DMM) - now non-stop

Your help is very much appreciated. Thanks! pikdig (talk) 06:07, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] CEB map update

Happy New Year Kmusser! Can you please update the destination map of CEB that you made?

Below are the destinations that aren't being served from CEB anymore:

Kalibo (KLO)
Kaohsiung (ROR)
Koror (ROR)
Mambajao (CGM)
Pagadian (PAG)
Shanghai-Pudong (PVG)

Below are new destinations served from CEB:

Dipolog (DPL)
Doha (DOH)
Dumaguete (DGT)
Legazpi (LGP)
Osaka-Kansai (KIX)
Ozamiz (OZC)
Surigao (SUG)

IATA code corrections:

Siargao's IATA code is SOS not SIA

Your help is very much appreciated. Thanks! pikdig (talk) 06:21, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Will do both. 16:32, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Both airports updated. Kmusser (talk) 19:57, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very much! However, LAS, which is a direct flight of PR (MNL-YVR-LAS-YVR-MNL), is labeled as a non-stop flight. Can you please correct this? Also can you please remove CYZ from the MNL map as Philippine Airlines recently announced that they'll cancel their MNL-CYZ-MNL flight this January 27 per [1]. Your help is once again very much appreciated! Thanks! pikdig (talk) 09:42, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

No problem, it's now been fixed. Kmusser (talk) 16:39, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Map of Anglo-Saxon England

Hi -- Kablammo suggested I ask you if you'd be willing to work on a map of Anglo-Saxon England. I have an article on Coenred of Mercia going through featured article candidacy right now, and Kablammo pointed out that the map in that article is not really legible at the reproduction size in the article. Would you be able to do a revised version that would have more legible text? Thanks for any help. Mike Christie (talk) 14:42, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Will do after the requests above. 16:32, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Done, I went ahead and placed it in the article. Also I noticed File:Saxonengland.jpg sitting over in commons which might be appropriate for some articles of that era. Kmusser (talk) 22:34, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very much; I appreciate both the fine map and the quick work. Mike Christie (talk) 00:42, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Siberian River Routes map needs fix

1. Remove marking on Amur River- I was wrong. 2. Add Kyatkha if you can. I accepted your river names and expanded them where I could. You obviously have better maps than I do. As for Tavda river, Forsyth implies a portage between the Tura and the Sosva branch of the Tavda at Vekhoturye, but I could not find anything definite. Benjamin Trovato (talk) 23:48, 4 January 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Benjamin Trovato (talk • contribs) 23:43, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Done. Kmusser (talk) 21:44, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Looks good. I don't think there will be any more changes. I've run out of sources. Benjamin Trovato (talk) 04:44, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] French colonial empire

Are you saying that you have found maps in which these exact areas were shaded? If not, it constitutes original research on the person who decided to shade those particular areas. That is certainly not an "enclave", what is shaded in China. BTW can you please provide the exact links? The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick ^t 01:36, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Original images are allowed as long as they aren't introducing a new idea (WP:OI), in this case it's a visual aid for something that is described in text. I found text descriptions of the shaded areas that confirmed the original mappers choices. In China the areas being shaded are the 4 provinces listed in the Exclaves article (which is clearly listing stuff other than just "exclaves"), both it and the map describe the shaded area as a "zone of influence", neither is claiming that it is anything more. Sources: Cambridge history link, another source, another, I do notice that these don't exactly agree on which provinces were included - they all include Yunnan and Kwangsi but Kwantung, Kweichow, and Hainan are sometimes included and sometimes not - given more time I could go through the relevant treaty texts and see which is correct.

For Siam the boundary of the shaded area is described in Entente cordiale and Britannica and text of the entente cordiale agreements.Kmusser (talk) 16:19, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

I realise that original images are allowed, but they are introducing a new idea if they say that a certain part of the world was a colony or a sphere of influence and no reliable source can be found to verify that that exact area was that way (if you see what I mean). I don't dispute that European countries had zones of influence in China, but none of your references are maps and therefore it is impossible to say whether these areas are correctly shaded (that is why I removed it). (Also I am not sure that the two websites you provided are reliable sources). I would propose following the same convention as British Empire, where only "true" colonies are shown, and can be cross-checked against existing maps in reliable sources. What do you say? The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick ^t 02:04, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

I think you're setting up an unreasonable standard - considering the state of cartography in the 19th century and earlier historical maps are often less reliable than a good textual description, I'd contend that it's impossible to define an area "exactly" using historical maps at all but if you have a description of where the boundaries are supposed to be they can often be easily drawn on a modern map. In this case determining whether the correct area is shaded isn't all that tricky, China's concessions were done by province and there are plenty of maps out there that show the provinces of China, I agree that more research is needed to make sure we have the right list of provinces, but that's just a matter of taking the time to do it. Whether you show zones of influence at all is really a different question which I don't have a strong opinion about. I'd be reluctant to change this one since it's so widely used on non-English wikis, but I'd support having two different versions of the map out there, one with ZOI and one without, though if you take out China and Siam you should take out the area in India as well - and then article editors can debate which to use. For that matter I'd support you doing a new labeled map like you've done for some of the other empires as well . Kmusser (talk) 15:50, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi there - I don't mean one has to use historical maps. There are plenty of modern day books on empires and we should show what modern day historians show in their maps. If you are willing to support a labelled map, then great - I'll set about making one. FYI - if you are in favour of this style of map for the empire articles, your input on this matter at Talk:Portuguese Empire would be useful. I have been having trouble with User:EuroHistoryTeacher removing File:The Portuguese Empire.png. The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick ^t 16:14, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

As an aside I also saw File:French Empire evolution.gif which might be a useful approach.Kmusser (talk) 16:50, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, we had some debate about this when I took British Empire to a FA review. Personally I'm not a fan of those animated GIF maps. They are either too fast and distracting, or too slow and boring to watch. I also think they look very amateurish. The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick ^t 16:52, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Comments added to Talk:Portuguese Empire, I also made a ZOI free version of the French map at File:France colonial Empire.png - feel free to add it the French Empire article if you think that's better. Kmusser (talk) 14:48, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Slightly modified map

Could you possibly create a slightly modified version of this map that you created? All it needs is for the labels "Bernicia" and "Deira" to be removed. I would suggest calling it File:British kingdoms c 800.png. If not, no problem, but it would be helpful. Thanks -- Mike Christie (talk) 10:38, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Sure, though I left the file on my work machine, it'll get done on Monday. Kmusser (talk) 16:05, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Done. Kmusser (talk) 13:25, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Monongahela National Forest Map

Can you make a map for Monongahela National Forest similar to the one you made for George Washington and Jefferson National Forests? Thanks! Brian Powell (talk) 03:21, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Sure, should be an easy one, soonest I'll get to it is probably Wednesday. Kmusser (talk) 03:44, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. If isn't too much trouble, could you do one for Wayne National Forest as well? Your maps look a lot nicer than the USFS graphic there now. Brian Powell (talk) 06:49, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Done. Kmusser (talk) 17:36, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Brian Powell (talk) 18:53, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Large International Hubs

I've been thinking for a while that it might be interesting to have an article comparing the Major Airlines Hubs of the World where they offer direct flights. It would be great to have some maps to go with them. I was thinking New York (With EWR, JFK & LGA), and London (LHR, LGW, STN, LTN & LCY) to start with. If this is something that sounds at all interesting, let me know, and I'll put together destinations lists. My Talk page is the best way to get in touch with me. Braditude (talk) 18:00, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

I explained more my Archivage there, I honnestly believe its the best solution, which qill be the most efficient for Wikipedia. Yug (talk) 14:55, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh..... User:Kmusser/Images O.o ! Yug (talk) 15:00, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

A new explaination is there. I can't promise that all will be perfect, but I do my best to change indo better. Yug (talk) 16:23, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Your edit was successful ! I improved it. But the GL use embeded template, so you need to purged the cache to see your edits. Yug (talk) 04:06, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your archivage ! I some times feel we are just 2 on this map project~ I'm happy to know that we will soon open the Map lab, and make the place more fun and lively :] Yug (talk) 19:35, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Hello, an interesting news... the idea of a new convention seems borning on fr-map lab, directly derivated from wiki-de location maps conventions, and aiming to ease statistical display, possibly generated by script. It's an SVG maps, as Location maps, but each province/state have its own specific path-polygone, easy to colorate, and the SVG code clearly identify/name this path (ex: id="Florida"). A bot may then create a full set of harmonious US-State locator maps ;). Interesting ! Yug (talk) 12:22, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] BWCAW

Hello Kmusser. The linked article on the Boundary Waters Canoe Area has a map which is in .gif format and not up to the standard of your work. Would you be willing to replace it? I think showing Superior National Forest (in which the BWCA is located) as well as Voyageurs National Park (which is continguous with the forest) is a good idea. I'm not so sure about the highways. (There is a map in the Voyageurs article but the scale is such as to make it illegible.) Thanks. Kablammo (talk) 01:39, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

With a little effort I found the source of the map.[2] More detail of the forest at the linked page. As you can see the Interstate shields are garish and the contrast between the forest and the BWCA itself is poor. Kablammo (talk) 01:59, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Will do. Kmusser (talk) 19:36, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Done, let me know if you see anything that should be changed on there. Kmusser (talk) 17:26, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Very nice work. My only question is whether the arrow from the BWCA legend to the BWCA itself should split to go to the discrete BWCA section west of Ely also. Thanks for your efforts; this map is much better than the old one. Kablammo (talk) 19:51, 10 February 2009 (UTC) Looking again, it is clear enough, as the colors of the legend and park are the same. Kablammo (talk) 21:39, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Destinations from ORD

Hey. I noticed that ORD needs the following destinations to be removed: bda, ngo, tpe, khi, isb, lhe, hyd, dgo, nas, fpo, geg, mxp, vie, oak

I mainly just checked int'l destinations so there's the possibility that more domestic destinations should be deleted as well. Oh, and off the bat, DME and LIR should be added. I don't know if there are any other destinations to be added since I didn't check. Deus Caritas Est (talk) 05:47, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

ok, I'll do a general update. Kmusser (talk) 13:46, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Done. Kmusser (talk) 20:57, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] St. Croix River watershed

Hi Kmusser - I wonder if you could provide a source file of any sort for your map of the St. Croix River. I've been looking for a good source for the watershed that I can use in some public education efforts. Let me know. Thanks, the dharma bum (talk) 19:48, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Here's a link to the watershed in Minnesota. Kablammo (talk) 21:44, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Montreal, Canada Airport Map CYUL/YUL

Hey, I have a request for a map of destination points from Montreal-Trudeau. Here is a link to the Airport page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montr%C3%A9al-Pierre_Elliott_Trudeau_International_Airport#Terminals_and_destinations

Thank you in advance User talk: Alexcaban February 14, 2009 11:06

Done. File:Montrealairportmap.png Kmusser (talk) 17:19, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with File:US Election04-08shift.svg

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[edit] DC Meetup Events: You're invited!

Wikipedia Loves Art! (February 27)

The Smithsonian American Art Museum will be holding a Wikipedia Loves Art! meetup on Friday, February 27 from 5-7 pm in the Kogod Courtyard. This is a photography event involving Wikipedians, along with Flickr users and others, to generate content for Wikipedia. Come share your experiences, meet the other teams, and take some photos! While RSVPing isn't necessary drop Jeff Gates an email if you're planning on attending so he can get a head count: gatesj (at) si.edu. There also is a signup list here, along with detailed information. The museum is conveniently located across from the Gallery Place-Chinatown metro station.

DC 6th Meetup (March 7)

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[edit] Hello, Karl

I am looking for a cartographer interested in making maps for a series of short Wikipedia articles I am writing. Could you be interested? I want every artificial whitewater on the global competition circuit to have its own Wikipedia article. I have written several, the only complete ones are Dickerson Whitewater Course and Ocoee Whitewater Center. I have started Water Sports Centre Čunovo, Tacen Whitewater Course, and Parc Olímpic del Segre. Dickerson is the only course I have seen in person (and paddled). I drew that map from my own measurements. I am trying to get permission to upload satellite photos of several other courses, but in many cases the satellite photos are not satisfactory. They could be used to draw course maps, however. I will attend the above meeting. Will you be there? Thank you. HowardMorland (talk) 05:52, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Dycebot question

Sure thing. Do you want the lengths of time for sections to be marked stale and archived to be the same? Also, do you want the naming scheme for the archives to be the same (i.e. Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Map workshop//Archive/Apr 2009)?--Dycedarg ж 17:56, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Done as you requested, I tested it just now and it will run after the image workshop archive job from now on. Note that a link to the new archive at Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Map workshop/Archive/Apr 2009 still needs to be placed somewhere on the main map workshop page. If you decide to change your mind about the selected lengths of time or anything else let me know.--Dycedarg ж 04:42, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, looks good, I added the requisite links. Kmusser (talk) 12:58, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Sprout Creek

Hey Kmusser. Could you throw together a map of the Sprout Creek subwatershed if you get a chance? Many thanks, –Juliancolton | ^Talk 17:06, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Done, decided to make it for the poor neglected Fishkill Creek article and included Sprout Creek on the same map. Kmusser (talk) 18:46, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] do you agree

with this ? thanks in advance. Alvar☮ ☎ 21:14, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that looks good. Kmusser (talk) 13:10, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Merci. Alvar☮ ☎ 13:29, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Archiving too fast : Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Map workshop

Hello Kmusser, the bot closes the map requests too fast. Map creation is far slower than image creation (WP:GL/I), I guess the time should be 3 to 4 time longer on the map workshop. The French Map lab work without time limit. But, some request stay there months, and are eventually not satisfied. Anyway, the current English Map workshop archive system is far too fast, a slower archiving is need. Can you chance this ? Yug (talk) 15:03, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes, User:Dycedarg set up the archiving bot at my request and said the settings could be whatever we want them to be. What do you think would be good? Monthly instead of weekly? Kmusser (talk) 16:11, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

How about this: pages will be marked stale after 30 days, and stale sections will be archived after 30 days, bringing the total time to 60 days as opposed to 21. And how about resolved sections, are those archiving too fast as well or is 3 days fine?--Dycedarg ж 17:31, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

I think the resolved ones are fine. Yug? Kmusser (talk) 18:13, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, I've implemented 30 and 30 for the stale and stale archive times, you can let me know if you want the resolved archive time changed.--Dycedarg ж 01:01, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Kmusser (talk) 16:28, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that's perfect, let's try this way :] (30+30). Thanks for your quick reaction ! I will restore some request which have been archived too fast.

Thanks again to both of you ! Yug (talk) 20:09, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Clickable maps

I'd like to follow up on your suggestion to create clickable maps, (per your suggestion in the Map Lab forum) but not sure where to start. I downloaded GIMP, and I've started through the documentation, but I gather GIMP is pixel oriented, event though it can handle SVG. Would I be better off in Inkscape? Can Inkscape take the output of a Template, or do I have to start over specifying the coordinates?Sphilbrick (talk) 19:33, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't think you need to make any changes to the map as it's all done through coding on the template. Take a look at the stuff in Category:Dynamic map templates and see if you can copy the code syntax of one that you like. You will need GIMP or Inkscape for looking up the coordinates of where you want your dots, either should be fine for that. Kmusser (talk) 19:47, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Sphilbrick (talk) 19:50, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Aliso Creek (Orange County)

Would you mind making a map of the Aliso Creek watershed (in California) as this article is going through a peer review and it had been recommended that you make a map? Thanks, themaee ^talk 23:36, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Done. My watershed boundaries and relief data don't go down that small, but I was able to improve upon File:Acmapcomposite.jpg. Kmusser (talk) 20:12, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] D.C. Meetup, Saturday, June 6, 2009

The 7th DC Meetup dinner will be held this Saturday, June 6th, starting at 5 p.m. The event will be at Bertucci's, near George Washington University and the Foggy Bottom metro station. It will follow the Apps for Democracy open source event at GWU. For details or to RSVP if you haven't already, see Wikipedia:Meetup/DC 7. (You have received this announcement because your user page indicates that you live in Maryland, Virginia, or DC.)
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[edit] Cano Caciquiare

Kmusser: Loved your map on the Caciquiare river! Im an architect interested in design and Territorial Ordering Plans. Im beginning a TOP for the protection of the Amazon Jungle. My question is: Is there a possible connection between the Parana and Amazon basins that would allow an inland South American travel from Buenos Aires to Delta Amacuro ( the mouths of the Orinoco)? A jesuit priest supposedly travelled in the 1500s by river from Paraguay to the mouth of the Orinoco. My blog is: www.metrobm.blogspot.com Greetings Metrobm (talk) 15:37, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

I have no idea, just from looking at a map, I don't think they are linked hydrologically, but looks like there are several places where a portage from one basin to the other wouldn't have been hard. Though crossing from the Parana's headwaters would lead to the Araguaia or Tocantins which would lead to the Amazon delta rather than the Orinoco. If you took the Parana to the Paraguay river to the Pantanal region - it's headwaters are very close to both the Tapajos (via Juruena or Teles Peres) and the Madeira (via the Guapore), the Madeira-Guapore would probably by easier to navigate in terms of the number of waterfalls you'd need to get past. Kmusser (talk) 02:07, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Congrats

Congratulations on your maps being used by the White House - very impressive.--Sphilbrick (talk) 12:16, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, it's been a busy couple of weeks :-) Kmusser (talk) 13:26, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Sir,

I've only recently learned a bit about you and your maps which are excellent -- as all the awards I saw moments ago attest to. Still, I personally want to say, "THANK YOU" for your contributions. I greatly enjoy cartography, among many other things, and I appreciate the high quality of your contributions to me, orthers that come to a wiki area, and the world that you help better -- certainly my world!

Again, THANK YOU.

– Brother Officer^Talk 08:34, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, I'm glad you enjoy them. Kmusser (talk) 10:54, 23 June 2009 (UTC)