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[edit] Hwanbyeokdang Pavilion

Just started a little article on Hwanbyeokdang Pavilion. I can't find a picture does anyone know where to get one? (Msrasnw (talk) 22:33, 20 December 2008 (UTC))

[edit] Empress Myeongseong

Sennen goroshi (talk · contribs) requests for move on Empress Myeongseong to Queen Min without any plausible argument nor evidence for his claim. Your input would be appreciated. Thanks.--Caspian blue 19:02, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Nice canvassing, CB. Sennen goroshi (talk) 19:04, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Drop the absurd accusation and personal attack, Sennen goroshi. You've warned for your absurd allegations to people. This talk page is to notify such RM, or anything to be discussed by editors if you do not know it until now. Look trough this Wikiproject or Japanese Project page. --Caspian blue 19:17, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
I did not make a personal attack, I suggested that you were canvassing, that is all. Sennen goroshi (talk) 20:08, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Not nice excuse for your behavior.--Caspian blue 20:37, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Queen Min? It is only common using word in Japan and few of the Korean. Therefore, Move on Empress Myeongseong to Queen Min is incorrect. --Historiographer (talk) 01:22, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
Should "Queen Min" not be used dozens of times in the text of the article, then (as it is currently)? In the first instance it's not even noted that this is the same person as the person named in the lead. Badagnani (talk) 01:54, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
CB you make me smile at times, I love the way you said I had no plausible argument - when I outlined my reasons quite clearly. If any of my fellow WikiProject Korea members are interested, go to the related talk page.Sennen goroshi (talk) 16:33, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hirohito

The leader for Korea (1926-1945) while it was under Japanese rule, Hirohito is proposed to be renamed "Emperor Shōwa" via WP:RM 76.66.198.171 (talk) 08:10, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Chinilpa

A request has been made to merge this category into Category:Korean collaborators with Imperial Japan. Discussion is at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2009 January 1#Category:Chinilpa. PC78 (talk) 14:30, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Proposal to convert Template:WikiProject Korea

A proposal has been made to convert our project banner template {{WikiProject Korea}} to use {{WPBannerMeta}}. Currently our banner looks like this:

WikiProject Korea (Rated NA-Class)
Korea portal
This page is within the scope of WikiProject Korea, a collaborative effort to build and improve articles related to Korea. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion.
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and if converted it will look like this:

WikiProject Korea (Rated NA-Class)
Korea portal
This page is within the scope of WikiProject Korea, a collaborative effort to build and improve articles related to Korea. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion.
Non-article page NA  This page does not require a rating on the project's quality scale.

The purpose of this change is to simplify the template's code, making it easier to maintain in the future. The new template will also have other advantages over our current one. At the moment it is only possible to have one work group per article using the wg= parameter. The new template will make it possible to have as many work groups as is necessary, so for example typing:

{{WikiProject Korea|film=yes|nk=yes}}

will result in:

WikiProject Korea (Rated NA-Class)
Korea portal
This page is within the scope of WikiProject Korea, a collaborative effort to build and improve articles related to Korea. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion.
Non-article page NA  This page does not require a rating on the project's quality scale.

Any comments on this proposal should be made at Template talk:WikiProject Korea, but for what it's worth I think this is something worth doing. PC78 (talk) 15:39, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Sin Chang-won

Could someone help with the following sentence from this source [1]?

친구들과 수박서리를 했다는 얘기를 들은 아버지는 ‘아들을 바로잡기 위해’ 신창원을 파출소에 데려갔고, 결국 소년원까지 보내졌다.

Specifically, what does 서리 mean here? Thanks. --Amble (talk) 01:10, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Please transcribe the Korean characters on this poster

Hi! Would someone please transcribe the Korean on this poster File:Sajwoehara.JPG so the text can be posted to the Liancourt Rocks article? Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 20:27, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately, this image looks like a copyvio since it is entirely a derivative work of the poster, whose copyright status is unknown. I have tagged it as such on Commons. --Amble (talk) 22:34, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
No need; it's unlikely the poster creators will sue us; any reuse of their poster is good publicity for them. Badagnani (talk) 22:47, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
Unfortunately, "unlikely to get sued" is not good enough, not by a mile. Commons is for freely licensed material only. If there's a good rationale for fair use, it can be posted here (on en.wikipedia) instead. --Amble (talk) 22:52, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
Anyway, here's the transcription: "독도 영유권 억지 주장을 되풀이하는 일본은 역사 앞에 사죄하라!" And at the bottom (Seoul Metropolitan Council): "서울특별시의회". --Amble (talk) 23:18, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! I suppose we can get the poster moved onto EN. Anhow, I put the Korean into Google Translator and, judging from the way Google Translator "translated it" - I came up with "Japan, apologize for claiming the Liancourt Rocks in the face of history" and put it here: Liancourt_Rocks#Recent_conflict - If anyone can think of a better translation, please feel free to edit it :) WhisperToMe (talk) 06:24, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
The file is deleted now from commons. I saved a copy, in case someone would like to post it on en.wikipedia with a fair use rationale and doesn't have the image available. --Amble (talk) 09:07, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/WP:KOREA cleanup

Just a note that per Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/WP:KOREA cleanup, i've deleted the three sub pages listed there.--Tikiwont (talk) 09:22, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] What is the reading of 가천의과학대학교 Gachon University of Medicine and Science?

What is the reading of 가천의과학대학교 Gachon University of Medicine and Science? WhisperToMe (talk) 06:47, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Are you looking for the romanization? [2] It's the same as before, with an extra "hak". Nice work updating the article. --Amble (talk) 09:17, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] What kinds of diplomatic activity does the Chongryon do? Any sources for that?

What kinds of diplomatic activity does the Chongryon in Japan do? Any sources? On Talk:Diplomatic_missions_of_North_Korea#Chongryon there was a debate over whether the Chongryon would count as a diplomatic mission of North Korea? Does the Chongryon do official DPRK government communication in Japan? What else does it do? WhisperToMe (talk) 20:35, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Edit warring at South Korea

A user has repeatedly removed cited information and images from South Korea#Religion, saying that it's POV and the sources are bad but not saying why. I went through and cleaned up what I could, removing POV assertions (like the assertion that Buddhism is the "largest religion in Korea," which was only sourced to a Buddhist website) and sources that are affiliated with Buddhism and whatnot; I also tried to improve the referencing style where I could (there are lots of bare URLs, so I converted some to {{cite web}}). But the user has continued to revert, without explaining why the sources are bad, and so far has ignored requests to discuss at talk. I would appreciate if someone could come in and offer a third opinion regarding this section. Politizer talk/contribs 16:57, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Good luck on the POV edit-warrior. I can't offer any help there. But about religion in South Korea: I'd always heard from my (Buddhist) in-laws that Buddhism was the largest religion. These things change, of course, but according to The CIA World Factbook, the 1995 census shows: Christian 26.3% (Protestant 19.7%, Roman Catholic 6.6%), Buddhist 23.2%, other or unknown 1.3%, none 49.3% I'd say that's a pretty reliable source. Dekkappai (talk) 17:34, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
Yeah; one source in the article (I've removed it, but I can dig up the url if you like) written around Aug 2008 claimed that Buddhism is the largest religion in Korea, with 11 million practitioners...but an article just published today in The Straits Times, and written by Agence France-Presse, says that "official data" report 10 million Buddhists and 13.7 Christians. I went with that AFP article, since it's more recent and by a more reliable source. Politizer talk/contribs 17:45, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
No need to show the older source-- I suspect that's what's happened-- Christianity overtook Buddhism by 3% in recent decades. I'd go with the Korean census data, if you can track that down, or the CIA data which cites it. Might even be interesting to show older census data, if that can be found, to show the shift over time... Dekkappai (talk) 18:12, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
There are a lot of non-practicing, non-religious people in South Korea whose families are nominally Buddhist. Therefore, the percentage of Buddhists could change significantly depending on exactly how the counting is done. --Amble (talk) 22:39, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
The really tricky part here is that Korean religions are not exclusive - you can be a Buddhist and a Taoist, for instance. If I remember correctly, MacArthur did a survey of religion in Japan post-WWII, and found 4 times as many religious adherents as there were people in Japan. Not surprising. --Dan (talk) 16:57, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Kim Dong-ni

Started an article on Kim Dong-ni, famous Korean author. Could someone please add the Korean Spelling, since I dont speak Korean. THnax - User: Singularity Rider, 3 February , 19:14

done. --Cheol (talk) 15:17, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Project banner

The above proposal to convert the banner to {{WPBannerMeta}} has now been implemented. Everything in the banner will continue to work as before. However, while it is still possible to use the |wg= parameter, each working group now has its own parameter making it possible to assign as many working groups as possible to an article. Please refer to Template:WikiProject Korea/doc for instructions on usage.

Also, each working group has it's own icon (except Arts and Cuisine because I couldn't find anything suitable); these are completely negotiable so if anyone objects to any of them or has any better suggestions then please say so and the banner can be updated. :) PC78 (talk) 01:10, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] May I borrow someone who speaks korean?

Subject just about says it all, I am dealing with a (South) Korean who wants to put an article about themselves in the English Wikipedia, but they don't speak English that well, and I don't speak Korean at all. Rather than try to explain why people shouldn't write articles about themselves in English, I think it would be better to have someone explain it in Korean. Anyone willing to help me? Please? :) Prodego talk 20:31, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Is this the user who sent you an email? :) PC78 (talk) 21:11, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
yep. Prodego talk 22:38, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] satellite Kompsat-2 or Arirang-2

It has been suggested that the article [Arirang-2] or section be merged with [Satellite Kompsat-2]. I agree with this suggest. I purpose the title Satellite Kompsat-2 or Arirang-2 because :

  • Kompsat-2 is more famous in the world, Arirang is famous in South Korea
  • To write satelitte in the title because Arirang is also a Korean folk song, a TV, a film and more.

I will propose in few days a merged article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PascalMichelSI (talk • contribs) 10:37, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Korean Food

I'm not sure how this works, but why isn't anyone here speaking up against dog consumption in Korean Food section? While we shouldn't deny dog is consumed in Korea, currently it's listed along with beef, chicken, and pork.

I'm sure everyone here is aware dog comsumption (whether you think it's ok or not) is a controversial practice that's frawn upon by rest of the developed world. There ought to be more concentration on the controversy of the practice rather than it's consumption. Current description is biased towards bringing to practice to wiki-users as a norm in korea when estimated only 10% of koreans have tried dogs. The current editors do this by using words like "most popular" and with it's entry being longer than that whole "fish and seafood" category.

Food is doorway to a new culture and more and more non-Koreans are learning about Korea through the food. While the dog consumption in Korea does happen, it is not a staple as the editor (article semi-protected) of that page claims.

And how is an American with very limited knowledge on Korean food in charge of our doorway of who we are to the rest of the world? Santaria360 (talk) 03:48, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

We simply do not function as an ethnic battleground at Wikipedia. Please do not attempt to turn our encyclopedia into such. Please also see WP:SPA. Badagnani (talk) 06:57, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
and you should not hold hostage of an entry that doesn't belong to you, smearing it with biased language. What part about Korean cusine do you not understand and what makes you an expert? From our conversation 2 years ago, your expertise to Korean food is the fact that you eat a lot of korean food and you have "many" korean friends... Also, still looking for answer to that question on why you INSIST that you keep dog eating as a major entry in Korean cuisine Santaria360 (talk) 07:12, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
To Santaria360: Since when is the English language edition of Wikipedia “[your] doorway of who [you] are to the rest of the world”? That's so not what Wikipedia is about.
I'm sorry to say that I can't be bothered to read through the discussions, but I'm sure there are simple ways to make everybody happy by mentioning that dog meat is consumed (that's noteworthy to many English readers, however rare it may be!), while also leaving no doubt about what status fido has in Korean cuisine by saying that it “is far from being an everyday food for the vast majority of South Koreans”, that “most South Koreans have only ever eaten it a few times and some deliberately avoid it”, or something along those lines. Readers will get a better picture if Wikipedia gives more information instead of hiding away dog consumption.
Frankly, I don't believe that only 10 % have ever eaten dog. Also, that's just South Korea and says nothing on the significance of dog meat in North Korea and Manchuria. – Wikipeditor (talk)
First, whether Wiki is doorway or not is subjective and whether that's what wikipedia is all about is secondary to the what the readers actually feel about the content at hand. Second, nowhere in the article mentions any of that distinction between dog, beef, chicken, and pork consumption and my solution isn't a censorship of dog eating, but presenting idea as a separate topic rather than pick and choosing the content readers should know, which is current what it is. Third, you very well know that when referring to Korea, people typically mean South Korea. Nowhere in the article can you find foods popular in North and statistics from it is rare and not dependable. Also, you said "Frankly, I don't believe that only 10% have ever eaten dog." Since when was Wikipedia about what you believe to be true? And if you want to count Koreans in North and Manchuria, why stop there? Why not people of Korean ancestry (first, second, third... generations) in US, Brazil, Canada, and etc see what % of them had eaten dogs. Santaria360 (talk) 01:52, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
This is all nonsense. "Korea" & "Koreans" usually refer to "South Korea" & "South Koreans," and when were we talking about Koreans in Manchuria? That's like saying we should merge national statistics of France with those of French in the US, etc... We don't know anything about N. Koreans, so don't bring them up & only fact we've got to play around with is that less than 10% of S. Koreans have eaten dog meat. (Chunbum Park (talk) 20:39, 22 February 2009 (UTC))
The Wall Street Journal says that one in three South Koreans has tasted dog meat.[3]. That seems a significant number. Badagnani (talk) 22:06, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
the article if you read it is not what Wall street Journal says. Please don't misrepresent. WSJ is quoting Korean TV station SBS on what they surveyed. We do not know the purpose of the survey, sample size, and the wording of it. If you ever created a survey with a help of Gallup, then you would know that statistics can be manipulated based on they way question is asked and who you ask. I got 10% from an animal rights group article in Korea. Whether that's true or not is disputable, so that only goes to further my point that there should be a separate section about controversial Korean foods. Santaria360 (talk) 01:52, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Please read the discussion archives straight through before commenting further (as you were earlier asked to do). "Dog meat" originally had its very own section in the Korean cuisine article, discussing it as a controversial food, but lengthy discussion and consensus between many Korean and non-Korean editors led to its being integrated into the "Meats" section and given a much more streamlined treatment. Part of the reason for this was that the "Dog meat" section on its own, at the end of the article, was thought to draw too much attention to this controversy. You'll see this reasoning when you read the discussion archives straight through. Badagnani (talk) 02:18, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Again, as I said on the "korean food" forum. I care about what's now, not the previous editions of what was before. I've been reading Wiki for awhile. I do remember some of the previous entries. You say that the too much attention is drawn to the controversy, but obviously article is still drawing controversy the way it is. I don't see any reason why, because it didn't work certain way in the past, that it shouldn't work another way with revisions. Santaria360 (talk) 02:37, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Here, ~60% of Koreans under age 30 won't eat dog meat, according to a survey by a government ministry. Still, my perception is that dog meat consumption is not common. (Chunbum Park (talk) 02:28, 23 February 2009 (UTC))
Perceptions are often shaped by one's experience; it's much better to rely on the statistics. If you would read the discussion archives straight through, it would be very helpful. Daily and annual tonnages for dog are supplied. Badagnani (talk) 02:37, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
I did and I'm still not satisfied. Maybe I'm misunderstanding and you can give me clear reason as to why to my question on the korean foods discussion. Like I've said before, statistics can be manipulated based on the way a question is asked, the purpose, who you ask, and what's really important now, is the time that it's asked(as in what else is happening in current event). Currently in Korea, there's mad cow scare and fear that people will get sick when they eat beef. Person's answer can very easily be altered on what's going on with a current event. May I remind you that after 9/11, going to war against Iraq was a very popular idea on any polls and statistics you looked at because people being polled were vulnerable by the fears of another attack. Few years later, it's completely a different story. --—Preceding unsigned comment added by Santaria360 (talk • contribs)
I was addressing User:Chunbum Park in the above comment. Badagnani (talk) 03:32, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm fine with the article covering only South Koreans, but then please move it to “South Korean food”. To Badagnani: Perceptions are shaped by experience, but if you ask a whole bunch of people who have spent some time in South Korea and nobody of them will tell you that dog is a common food, then by common sense it no longer looks like a randomly shaped assumption, is it? Of course, that would be original research and shouldn't go in a Wikipedia article. But statistics can be wrong, too. For example, a family I've visited in Gyeongsang reared a few dogs and it wasn't their main source of income, so I wouldn't be surprised if those dogs never appear in any papers and statistics. That's the only farm I've seen in detail, so while from my limited view there may be a lot of farmers out there rearing undocumented dogs on a small scale (which would mean statistics show less than what's really produced), it may just as well be a highly unusual thing. Oh and it would be cool to have separate figures for both production and consumption for each country involved in the business. And import/export numbers. Not here, but in the dog meat article, of course. Who knows, once we have all those figures, it may turn out that South Korea produces quite a lot of dog meat but then exports much of it to other dog-appreciating places. – Wikipeditor (talk)

I hear North Korea uses a different word for dog meat, dan-gogi (RR, not McR), which means "sweet meat." Judging from that, I'd assume it was consumed in the past. I wouldn't be surprised if they still do. --Kjoonlee 12:40, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Translation

I need translations for the following titles: 악재 겹친 '동방신기', 비상 {-} 동방신기 영웅재중, 친자 확인 소송 {-} <속보>영웅재중 생부 가족, "재중이 위해 소송취하하겠다" {and} 영웅재중 “난 김재중으로 살고파”. Feel free to remove this if I am breaking a rule... 月と日の出 15:13, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Coordinators' working group

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[edit] List of Korean inventions

List of Korean inventions

I propose that this article should be deleted. Everything mentioned is already list under Science and Technology in Korea article Anyone else agree? Jegal (talk) 02:30, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Not sure. It's a pretty poor article as it is, but one would expect there to be enough Korean inventions to support a viable list. You're best prodding it or AfDing it. PC78 (talk) 02:41, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
Even if it's mentioned elsewhere, it should atleast redirect to it. 76.66.193.90 (talk) 06:11, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Sang-Hyun Song

Hi, I've just started an article at Sang-Hyun Song and I'd appreciate if someone would check it out in case I've made any obvious mistakes with his name. And a {{Korean name}} box would be great, if you have the time! Thanks, Polemarchus (talk) 22:18, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

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[edit] Adding hangul and hanja to articles

When adding hangul or hanja to articles, is it typically necessary to cite the source of the information (e.g. online encyclopedia, official website, etc.)? I recently updated the article about South Korean potter Cho Ki-Jung and added a citation for the hanja (it was in Category:Wikipedia articles needing hanja). This was based on advice from the Wikipedia Help Desk. Do WikiProject Korea editors typically add a citation for this information or just add it as fact (without a specific reference)? Daram.G (talk) 10:29, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Korean help needed

Hi everyone. In Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hak Ja Han a discussion of a point of Korean culture just came up. If anyone likes you could add your opinions. Thanks. Steve Dufour (talk) 01:43, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Koredog

Recently created article. Is this nonsense or not? PC78 (talk) 22:15, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

It doesn't look very notable to me. I proposed deletion. --Amble (talk) 22:47, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Jicho herb

Can anyone determine what the "jicho herb" mentioned here is? Badagnani (talk) 03:13, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Jicho (지초) is Lithospermum erythrorhizon, apparently. Check out [4] (English) or [5] (Korean). We also have an article on the genus Lithospermum here on Wikipedia. Daram.G (talk) 06:11, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ha Seung-moo

Can someone who reads or understands Korean please have a look at this? Thanks! PC78 (talk) 16:08, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Reading of publisher name / looking for publisher website

I'm trying to track down the foreign publication details of Town of Evening Calm, Country of Cherry Blossoms. I've confirmed the existence of a Korean edition, ISBN 9788970753492 published by 문학세계사 -- but I haven't been able to find a romanized name for the publisher. Can anyone assist here? Following on to that, this seems to be the website of said publisher, but I cannot by any method of google-fu get it to admit it has the book in its catalog. Have I gotten hold of the wrong website? Can anyone find a catalog page that better verifies the edition's existence than a Google Books listing? Thanks in advance for any assist. —Quasirandom (talk) 21:40, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

I tried finding the information you asked for, but didn't have any luck. However, it seems that the website you mentioned is the correct one, since it comes up as "the" search result in Naver. I searched through the publisher's website (both the current website and an archived version on the Internet Archive Wayback Machine), but couldn't find it. The information you found seems to plausible, though. - Daram.G (talk) 01:04, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for trying. (I suppose I should be glad to hear it's not just that my google-fu is weak like an old man.) One follow-up -- do you have a romanization of the publisher's name? —Quasirandom (talk) 16:55, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
According to the current website, the romanization is "MunhakSegyeSa." In the archived version, it is listed with spaces: "Munhak Segye Sa." I think either one of those would be fine. I couldn't find a "translation" of the publisher's name, as such. - Daram.G (talk) 22:21, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. —Quasirandom (talk) 21:29, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Korean football clubs

Hi, I've found a number of Korean football clubs that don't seem to compete in any of the main leagues. I've listed them here. I was hoping someone could tell me where I might be able to find more information on them. Are any of them well-known? I am considering deleting them all, would anyone oppose this? Many thanks Stu.W UK (talk) 14:20, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Photos of Korean cars needed

Caspian Blue suggested that maybe I could find someone to help me here.

I have made some discoveries about Korean cars that are only available in Korea, such as the Hyundai Equus, the Dynasty, the Grandeur, and the Centennial. I was wondering if someone here with a digital camera could take a few photos? Currently, the above cars mentioned have only one image per article which really doesn't say very much about the car. The images used for the first and second generation Hyundai Grandeur are actually the Mitsubishi Debonair due to images of the Grandeur are not found in Wikimedia Commons. Now that Hyundai has become a major player in the automotive world, I thought it would be nice to see older Hyundais from the '80s and '90s and other Korean cars that the rest of the world isn't aware of. North Korean cars would especially interesting, if they make them.

If no one can help me with this request, do you know of anyone who might be able to help?

Thank you for your time (Regushee (talk) 03:03, 11 April 2009 (UTC))

First you can try Flickr images with free license. We have a few good photographer (not professionals, but taking very good images) such as Patriotmissile (talk · contribs)[6] and Jpbarrass (talk · contribs)[7]. But I don't know they're interested in taking "car" image. You can also ask a favor to Flickr users who release their good images under CC-BY or CC-BY-SA and live in South Korea such as this user. [8]--Caspian blue 03:33, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
On Hyundai Equus new five images with good quality were recently added. So well, contact the editor too.--Caspian blue 03:38, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] RFC on Hak Ja Han

Ongoing WP:RFC on article Hak Ja Han, please see Talk:Hak_Ja_Han#RfC:_Sentence_about_marriage_to_Sun_Myung_Moon. Thank you for your time, Cirt (talk) 17:53, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] ancient sources

There's a notice at WT:CHINA about the usage of ancient Chinese sources. Since some articles about ancient Korea will probably use some ancient Chinese sources, this may be of interest to you. See Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know/TangTalk. 70.29.213.241 (talk) 06:36, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Sim (Korean name): Sim or Shim ?

Could someone please look at the edits from today (either revert, improve or initiate a move) ? 감사합니다 ----Erkan Yilmaz 20:32, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

I couldn't say how appropriate this change is, but it's making a mess of the article and you've already asked the user to discuss on the talk page (which he hasn't), so I've reverted again. PC78 (talk) 21:45, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
Also see the discussion here. --Amble (talk) 21:53, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks to both of you for your time. ----Erkan Yilmaz 22:26, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Korea-related articles at AfD

There are currently 11 Korea-related articles at AfD, which is by far the most I've seen in a while. If anyone is interested, please see the deletion discussions at WP:KO-DEL. PC78 (talk) 11:31, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Korean musicians in Japan

Is this a legitimate subject? It looks a bit dubious to me, especially in its current state. PC78 (talk) 23:31, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Korean-Shinto

Korean-Shinto has been nomianted for dleetion at WP:AFD 76.66.196.218 (talk) 04:21, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Looking at webpage with old Korean encoding

Hi! I'm trying to find the Korean name for the National Transportation Safety Board - But this page http://www.ntsb.gov/events/KAL801/hearings_kor.htm has a very old encoding, so I cannot tell what the Korean name for the NTSB is. What is the Korean name of the NTSB? I am not looking for the translated name of the NTSB on the Korean Wikipedia - I am looking for the name used by the NTSB on its Korean language pages.

How do I download a pack so I can look at this old encoding? WhisperToMe (talk) 18:07, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

According to Korean Wiki, it is called ko:미국연방교통안전위원회 (Miguk Yeonbang Gyeotong Anjeon Uiwonhoe = meaning United States of America Federal Transportation Safety Board).[9] I can't not read the page either.--Caspian blue 18:15, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Maybe someone with a Windows 98 Korean pack could see it. According to IE8 the encoding is "Korean (EUC)" - And it is grayed out. WhisperToMe (talk) 18:19, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Ah, I only scanned your your request half. The name at Korean Wiki is indeed correctly addressed for the U.S board which name is known as such in South Korea. That's why I added a link from Doosan Encyclopedia. Here is another one.[10] I don't use the old system.--Caspian blue 18:24, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Alrighty! I still am interested in what the NTSB used as, if it is different, I could use it as a redirect on the Korean Wikipedia WhisperToMe (talk) 18:47, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Korean bell

I've placed a prod tag on this article, but I'll mention it here in case anyone can do anything with the article. Is there anything unique about Korean bell which could not be covered by Bell (instrument)? PC78 (talk) 13:02, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes they are I think a bit special. There is some useful information here:

http://www.kclc.or.jp/humboldt/ostasien/moon.htm which might be useful for this article. (Msrasnw (talk) 13:46, 30 April 2009 (UTC))

[edit] DYK for Buddha's Birthday

Hi, we have a DYK event for Buddha's Birthday just like Christmas or April Fool's day. Many of Korean culture is based on Buddhism, so one you guys can write/expand Buddhist related articles (famous temples, monks, movies, literature, paintings, foods etc) within 5 days, and then nominate it to the below place. After review, your article can be featured on the main page. So be hurry if you are interested. :)

Template talk:Did you know#Articles created/expanded for Buddha's Birthday (May 2) and Vesak (May 9) --Caspian blue 18:43, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Newsen

I doubt anyone would actdually know, but does anyone have information on Newsen? I tried looking for it on kowiki, but there was nothing there either. The reason I'm asking is that it appears to be a notable online news agency, and it's the source for many articles...and yet there's nothing on it. If anyone does know anything, that would be great.  :) SKS (talk) 22:29, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] What is the reading?

For The Great Catsby, both McCune Reischauer and Revised Romanization:

  • 위대한 캣츠비 - The first part is I think Widaehan, but I'm unsure how the second is read
  • 페르수

WhisperToMe (talk) 13:32, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

    • 위대한 캣츠비 - Widaehan Kaetcheubi (RR), Witaehan Kaetch'ŭpi
    • 페르수 - Pereusu (RR) P'erŭsu (MR)

--Caspian blue 13:51, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

    • 위대한 캣츠비 in MR should be Widaehan K'aetch'ŭbi. --Amble (talk) 15:22, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] need some arbitration

South Korea article.

need some help.

some user delete its intro.[11]

he did major delete without any proper reason. plase can you participate in its arbitration?[12] Cherry Blossom OK (talk) 06:55, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Korean Hanbok derived from Ming Dynasty?

A Chinese editor has been propagating this view in many articles in Wikipedia with only a dubious basis. The exact words of this editor is:

During Ming Dynasty of China, Korea (Joseon Dynasty) became a vassal state of China, and thus Koreans widely adopted and integrated hanfu into their own culture, with the women wearing Ming Dynasty style ruqun, which eventually developed to hanbok today.

Please discuss in [13] if you're interested. Cydevil38 (talk) 23:48, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] maps

(I'm not sure where I should put this: WikiProject, this talk, or else-where.) Most of the maps that accompany city locations in Korea are provincial maps. I would guess for an over-whelming majority of our readers, they are by and large meaningless. Gwangju is an enlightened esception. Can't we change from province to country -- or province and country? Kdammers (talk) 11:56, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Photograph request - Korean Air HQ

Korean Air's HQ is at 1370, Gonghang-dong, Gangseo-gu, Seoul, Korea - Would someone mind photographing it? Thank you [14]

[edit] Naval ensign of South Korea?

According to Flag of South Korea, the naval ensign of South Korea is File:Naval Jack of South Korea.svg. Given that the name of the file seemingly contradicts this fact, can anyone here provide guidance on what the correct naval ensign is? I know that using {{navy|South Korea}} displays File:Flag of South Korea.svg, which seems to contradict the "Flag of South Korea" article. Any help appreciated. — Bellhalla (talk) 14:23, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Help!

Hello there,

Can you please help editign Gotjawal Forest?

It is difficult for me to cleanup, and wikify this.

Especially, it is difficult to make an infobox.

Can you help?

Yongchangjang (talk) 02:52, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Medicinal mushrooms

Not sure if this article falls under the scope of your group, but if it does, please review it for me. Jatlas (talk) 21:48, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] grammar problem

hi, recently, i edited liancourt rocks dispute, but, some one say, "rv, unreadable, ungrammatical and highly tendentious additions" and revert it.[15]

please can you correct grammar of my edit? i want help from someone. Cherry Blossom OK (talk) 21:41, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Edit war at Joseon Dynasty

Over at Joseon Dynasty, User:Historiographer is firmly of the opinion that Joseon was entirely "sovereign" and never a "vassal state" of the Qing, and consistently reverts the article to say so. I'm fairly sure that neither is the case, and that this is the mainstream understanding of history (see eg. [17], from the Office of the President, ROK), but additional opinions would be welcome. Jpatokal (talk) 15:59, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Article has been fully protected now, additional opinions still welcome. Jpatokal (talk) 13:12, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Sources requested for Korean online gaming topics.

The following articles require sources to establish notability, or they may be nominated for deletion: KwonHo, Netmarble, MAIET Entertainment, GunZ: The Duel. I came close to nominating MAIET and Gunz myself, and it appears KwonHo has been deleted before, so those might be more pressing? Thanks! - BalthCat (talk) 03:36, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

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